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Keith S30S said:
I don't see anyone who is?

People have tried to talk down Rigg saying 'well he isn't Jude at 17' but he is never going to be. He's a 17 year old kid with a boy's physique playing man's football.

Players develop at differed rates. Jude wasn't fully physically developed at 16 (like Rooney) but he was 6 foot and very athletic.

Peter Beardsley never played at a decent level until he was 22. He was rejected by several clubs because he was too small. He's the same height as Rigg is now.
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Great post, people often overlook this
 
Keith S30S said:
He wasn't, he was just a very promising player. His first season at Dortmund was OK but not special apart from his young age. He only scored 4 goals.

He was chosen for England at 17 but didn't score an international goal in first 10 games. He was 19 when he finally scored which for a number 10 that isn't great.
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He wasn’t a number 10 at Dortmund though so I don’t think it’s fair to judge him off of goals. He was a centre mid. It was Ancelotti who moved him to a more advanced role.

Rigg is quality but Jude definitely was talked as a generation talent and rightly so. Playing Champions League games at 18 and bossing them.
 
DC88 said:
He wasn’t a number 10 at Dortmund though so I don’t think it’s fair to judge him off of goals. He was a centre mid. It was Ancelotti who moved him to a more advanced role.

Rigg is quality but Jude definitely was talked as a generation talent and rightly so. Playing Champions League games at 18 and bossing them.
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Gerard and Lampard played centre midfield. I don't think either of them would have been happy with 1 goal every 10 games.
 
Keith S30S said:
He wasn't, he was just a very promising player. His first season at Dortmund was OK but not special apart from his young age. He only scored 4 goals.

He was chosen for England at 17 but didn't score an international goal in first 10 games. He was 19 when he finally scored which for a number 10 that isn't great.
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I think you might have misread how good he was

His first season for Dortmund he was wonderful
 
Keith S30S said:
As others have said, he didn't hit the international scene with the same massive splash as Rooney or Owen. He was very promising but they were literally touted as world class when they were 18. They were revelations at tournaments. Bellingham wasn't at that age.
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Are you for real 😂😂😂

In November 2020, after James Ward-Prowse and Trent Alexander-Arnold withdrew through injury, Bellingham was called up to the England senior squad for the first time.[104] He made his debut in a friendly match against the Republic of Ireland at Wembley on 12 November,[105] replacing Mason Mount after 73 minutes of a 3–0 win.[106] At 17 years, 136 days, he became England's third-youngest full international; only Theo Walcott and Wayne Rooney had appeared at a younger age.[106] Bellingham was named in the England squad for the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament, which was delayed until June 2021 because of the COVID-19 pandemic.[107] When he came on as an 82nd-minute substitute in England's opening match, a 1–0 win over Croatia at Wembley on 13 June, aged 17 years and 349 days, he became both the youngest Englishman to play at any major tournament and the youngest of any nationality to play at a European Championship;[108] the latter record was broken by Poland's Kacper Kozłowski just six days later.[109]
Bellingham's first senior international goal, a header from Luke Shaw's cross to open the scoring in England's 6–2 victory over Iran in their first game of the 2022 FIFA World Cup on 21 November, made him the second youngest scorer for England at a World Cup. He also made the run and pass to Harry Kane who crossed for Raheem Sterling to score England's third goal, and played the through ball from which Callum Wilson set up their sixth for Jack Grealish.[110][111] He followed this up during the last-16 game against Senegal with a run through the defence, assisting Jordan Henderson's goal in the 38th minute, and played a key role in Harry Kane's goal in first-half stoppage time, setting up Phil Foden to make the assist.
 
Dobblemackem said:
Are you for real 😂😂😂

In November 2020, after James Ward-Prowse and Trent Alexander-Arnold withdrew through injury, Bellingham was called up to the England senior squad for the first time.[104] He made his debut in a friendly match against the Republic of Ireland at Wembley on 12 November,[105] replacing Mason Mount after 73 minutes of a 3–0 win.[106] At 17 years, 136 days, he became England's third-youngest full international; only Theo Walcott and Wayne Rooney had appeared at a younger age.[106] Bellingham was named in the England squad for the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament, which was delayed until June 2021 because of the COVID-19 pandemic.[107] When he came on as an 82nd-minute substitute in England's opening match, a 1–0 win over Croatia at Wembley on 13 June, aged 17 years and 349 days, he became both the youngest Englishman to play at any major tournament and the youngest of any nationality to play at a European Championship;[108] the latter record was broken by Poland's Kacper Kozłowski just six days later.[109]
Bellingham's first senior international goal, a header from Luke Shaw's cross to open the scoring in England's 6–2 victory over Iran in their first game of the 2022 FIFA World Cup on 21 November, made him the second youngest scorer for England at a World Cup. He also made the run and pass to Harry Kane who crossed for Raheem Sterling to score England's third goal, and played the through ball from which Callum Wilson set up their sixth for Jack Grealish.[110][111] He followed this up during the last-16 game against Senegal with a run through the defence, assisting Jordan Henderson's goal in the 38th minute, and played a key role in Harry Kane's goal in first-half stoppage time, setting up Phil Foden to make the assist.
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Cheers for that.

It demonstrates perfectly that he didn't really make a difference for England until 2022 when he was 19 😂
 
Keith S30S said:
Cheers for that.

It demonstrates perfectly that he didn't really make a difference for England until 2022 when he was 19 😂
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So he was younger than Owen who used as an example when he first made an appearance for England?

He then lost months at international level due to covid, but despite that still went on to be the youngest player not just for England but for any team to play at a European championship. He’s the second youngest ever English player to score a goal at a World Cup.

But yeah no impact, as for covid, totally his fault.
 
Dobblemackem said:
So he was younger than Owen who used as an example when he first made an appearance for England?

He then lost months at international level due to covid, but despite that still went on to be the youngest player not just for England but for any team to play at a European championship. He’s the second youngest ever English player to score a goal at a World Cup.

But yeah no impact, as for covid, totally his fault.
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Dobblemackem said:
So he was younger than Owen who used as an example when he first made an appearance for England?

He then lost months at international level due to covid, but despite that still went on to be the youngest player not just for England but for any team to play at a European championship. He’s the second youngest ever English player to score a goal at a World Cup.

But yeah no impact, as for covid, totally his fault.
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Eh?

Owen was 18 when he scored against Argentina rather than a 19 year old against Iran.

You're having a nightmare.
 
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