The Hundred 2024

[Beau Peep]

Apologists out in force tonight

It's poor quality swing and miss, smash and out, plastic stumps cricket. My 6 year old quite likes it though, it's fine as a gateway for kids and it's been excellent for the profile of the women's game which is a good thing, but what it's done to domestic men's cricket is unforgivable.

 

[Voice of fair play]

No one is blaming the Hundred concept for the injury. The criticism is his being mandated to participate in a particular fixture for no reason other than to keep the dying embers glowing of a tournament promoted as containing world class players.Stokes has repeatedly complained about the excessive workload of England players.Don't mandate them to play unnecessarily and purely for promotional reasons.

Yes there are!!

That’s what started the debate as a poster said ‘any cricketer at a decent level would now avoid this tournament’

As if it was the tournaments fault.

If Stokes hamstring was weak could have happened any time

 

[The Great MES]

Why

Cos it's a joke competition which is now hampering the real game.

They're making a fortune thou

Stokes is on a central contract, so he'll be on atleast 500k+

You're not real

 

[Voice of fair play]

Apologists out in force tonight

It's poor quality swing and miss, smash and out, plastic stumps cricket. My 6 year old quite likes it though, it's fine as a gateway for kids and it's been excellent for the profile of the women's game which is a good thing, but what it's done to domestic men's cricket is unforgivable.

Pooran was simply superb tonight and it was a brilliant knock, the complete opposite of poor quality.

I get the reasons why people don’t like the 100 as it has many faults.

But find it completely imbalanced that if Pooran had played that knock in the blast it would have been a great knock, but because it was in the 100 it’s not.

A good innings is a good innings it doesn’t become a bad innings because of what competition it played in!!!

The Hundred no different than T20 tournaments in terms of quality, in fact you could make a excellent argument it better quality than the blast as the best players from 18 counties are put into 8 teams

 

[Parkside]

Yes there are!!

That’s what started the debate as a poster said ‘any cricketer at a decent level would now avoid this tournament’

As if it was the tournaments fault.

If Stokes hamstring was weak could have happened any time

I'd interpret " decent level" inferring England level given that the,issue is referring to Stokes. I also suspect that the majority of domestic players are only attracted / bribed by the relatively high fees on offer

 

[Beau Peep]

Pooran was simply superb tonight and it was a brilliant knock, the complete opposite of poor quality.

I get the reasons why people don’t like the 100 as it has many faults.

But find it completely imbalanced that if Pooran had played that knock in the blast it would have been a great knock, but because it was in the 100 it’s not.

A good innings is a good innings it doesn’t become a bad innings because of what competition it played in!!!

I'm not denying that the format doesn't prevent great innings and performances by the light smattering of high quality international players in it. Some excellent Pakistani and Afghani bowlers in it this year that have looked far too good for the batting, Rauf, Rashid Khan and a couple more. Zampa has obviously been very classy too. Average scores are down and I don't believe it's the pitches.

For every one of Pooran's 66 from 33 there's a lot more good players trying too hard to hit big shots and looking silly. Those second tier but big name players like Hales, Livingstone, Pope, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Jennings, Pollard.

Duckett, Salt and Vince, T20 specialists and have done well, but of course they've had the benefit of playing in the Powerplays.

 

[callum]

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Free?

Membership so included

 

[mackembhoy]

I hope Pooran steps on a lego brick.

Them getting knocked out was great news for Durham.

Probably now nailed on for top 3, not sure how the other team lost I saw they had 70 odd from 25 balls while the Leeds crisp packets were 29 from 36.

 

[Hetty]

Monday 12th August

Women 3pm
Birmingham Phoenix Women v Trent Rockets Women
Edgbaston, Birmingham

Men 6.30pm
Birmingham Phoenix Men v Trent Rockets Men
Edgbaston, Birmingham

 

[Voice of fair play]

I'm not denying that the format doesn't prevent great innings and performances by the light smattering of high quality international players in it. Some excellent Pakistani and Afghani bowlers in it this year that have looked far too good for the batting, Rauf, Rashid Khan and a couple more. Zampa has obviously been very classy too. Average scores are down and I don't believe it's the pitches.

For every one of Pooran's 66 from 33 there's a lot more good players trying too hard to hit big shots and looking silly. Those second tier but big name players like Hales, Livingstone, Pope, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Jennings, Pollard.

Duckett, Salt and Vince, T20 specialists and have done well, but of course they've had the benefit of playing in the Powerplays.

I am not sure of your point other than the bowling this tournament has been really really good, which I agree with you on, bowlers are allowed to do well they can do that.

Far to often short format tournaments get a lot of criticism for been too far in favour of the batting team and not a fair balance between bat and ball.

This tournament has you have alluded too the bowlers have bowled very well and average scores have been down, is that not better than just two big scores on flat wickets?

And makes for a better game? That’s what I here loads of times?

If quality players are trying to hit too many big shots and failing maybe they need to adapt their game or play better, either way that can happen in any T20 tournament what you saying not exclusive to the hundred.

Although Pollard hit 5 sixes in a row of Rashid no less the other night to win the game he did not look silly then

The bottom line is too high scores are scored it’s gets criticism if too low it does as well!

Yesterday summed up this tourament first game rubbish second a cracker, in other words just like any other tournament

 

[Beau Peep]

I am not sure of your point other than the bowling this tournament has been really really good, which I agree with you on, bowlers are allowed to do well they can do that.

Far to often short format tournaments get a lot of criticism for been too far in favour of the batting team and not a fair balance between bat and ball.

This tournament has you have alluded too the bowlers have bowled very well and average scores have been down, is that not better than just two big scores on flat wickets?

And makes for a better game? That’s what I here loads of times?

If quality players are trying to hit too many big shots and failing maybe they need to adapt their game or play better, either way that can happen in any T20 tournament what you saying not exclusive to the hundred.

Although Pollard hit 5 sixes in a row of Rashid no less the other night to win the game he did not look silly then

The bottom line is too high scores are scored it’s gets criticism if too low it does as well!

Yesterday summed up this tourament first game rubbish second a cracker, in other words just like any other tournament

Exactly as I said. There are some good bowlers and batters in it, and no format will necessarily stop them doing it well. There will always be great individual performances in any match, almost by default because someone has to win (they're about the only five decent shots Pollard has played all tournament by the way).

My point, as I made clearly, is that the format and all round production is trash, and brings out the worst in many more good players; the overall quality is very poor. For some reason much poorer than domestic T20.

The most egregious part is that the price of this month long monstrosity is English domestic cricket in the short term, and no doubt Test cricket in the medium term.

If this was a special winter jamboree played in November in Dubai or something, I'd probably see it as harmless shite.

Imagine if they'd ploughed all this money into domestic 18-county T20, men's and women's, and the benefits it would have had for counties like ours.

 

[brandon]

Knacked for the season I reckon

Yep, seen the clip just now - looks like more than just a slight pull that. Reckon he’s done until the winter tour.

Great. Now the captain of England has injured himself playing in this stupid Mickey Mouse competition.

Utter joke that he’s even playing in it. No fucker at FTECB will even bat an eyelid though, they’d do it again and again. I only hope Baz has a few choice words for Key and his cronies off the back of it, but they’ll feel like they’ll get away with it seeing as it’s only Sri Lanka coming up.

Should be sat at home resting up ready for the Sri Lanka series, instead he’s going to be rehabbing for a minimum of three months.

Yeah just been very unlucky

It’s science, luck has nothing to do with it.

People who have knee trouble are always more susceptible to hamstring injuries.

Eh???

Can you only pull a hamstring running in this competition like???

Are other games and matches protecting hamstrings

What a silly thing to say

No shock at all to see you’ve totally missed the point here…

 

[Parkside]

Yep, seen the clip just now - looks like more than just a slight pull that. Reckon he’s done until the winter tour.


Utter joke that he’s even playing in it. No fucker at FTECB will even bat an eyelid though, they’d do it again and again. I only hope Baz has a few choice words for Key and his cronies off the back of it, but they’ll feel like they’ll get away with it seeing as it’s only Sri Lanka coming up.

Should be sat at home resting up ready for the Sri Lanka series, instead he’s going to be rehabbing for a minimum of three months.


No shock at all to see you’ve totally missed the point here…

He hasn't missed the point, he's deliberately ignored the point.He's not so mentally challenged as to not understand that it was mandating him to be involved in the tournament that was the issue not the tournament itself; farce of a tournament that it is.
As usual,he twists what's said to suit his obsession.

 

[Sillypoint]

Apologists out in force tonight

It's poor quality swing and miss, smash and out, plastic stumps cricket. My 6 year old quite likes it though, it's fine as a gateway for kids and it's been excellent for the profile of the women's game which is a good thing, but what it's done to domestic men's cricket is unforgivable.

What’s that? Given the counties a cash injection, if you listen to Bostocks interview he’s said without it the counties would be in huge trouble

 

[Parkside]

What’s that? Given the counties a cash injection, if you listen to Bostocks interview he’s said without it the counties would be in huge trouble

The cash injection came from ECB cash reserves NOT from the Hundred which loses money.England team gate receipts and TV revenue are by far the main source of income.

 

[Hetty]

He hasn't missed the point, he's deliberately ignored the point.He's not so mentally challenged as to not understand that it was mandating him to be involved in the tournament that was the issue not the tournament itself; farce of a tournament that it is.
As usual,he twists what's said to suit his obsession.

He's been paid loads of money to take part in it as part of his central contract and not do other franchise. In fact his central contract is up shortly in a month or two

 

[Parkside]

He's been paid loads of money to take part in it as part of his central contract and not do other franchise. In fact his central contract is up shortly in a month or two

Yes,as was said, England players were mandated, even appointed to a specific team.Interesting that Ben has only a contract for 1 year,presumably at his choice, particularly as all the planning is focused on the Ashes a year hence.

 

[brandon]

That’s not what the poster said though was it, he said any player should now serve the tournament as if it’s the tournaments fault

You can get injured in any game anytime in any competition unless you saying a England captain scould never play for another team ever

You must not be able to pull a hamstring at Old Trafford in a different tournament

Guess if he played in the one day cup on the ground and went for the same sprint he would have been ok

Now you know what I meant by finding every possibly angle to have a go, it’s now the tournament fault and it’s a curse!!

Any player worth their salt will now avoid it

Still missing it

 

[Hetty]

Yes,as was said, England players were mandated, even appointed to a specific team.Interesting that Ben has only a contract for 1 year,presumably at his choice, particularly as all the planning is focused on the Ashes a year hence.

Yeah, he turned down a longer contract to sign just for a year, so he can explore other oppertunities

 

[consettsafc]

Membership so included

Does your county membership include hundred tickets?