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England XI for the Summer

Englands test record at home in recent times especially since new regime took over very good imo.

And but for rain would have beat the best side in the world last summer.

So would go with the majority who played that series (minus of course Broad)

So see no reason at all for wholesale changes just because they have been well beat in a country,where all teams, are well beat all of the time.

It’s more about learning some of the lessons of last summer and this series rather than changing personnel imo
 
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Well we still have a chance of WTC final apparently. Just the easy task of winning 12 games on the bounce

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Voice of fair play said:
Englands test record at home in recent times especially since new regime took over very good imo.

And but for rain would have beat the best side in the world last summer.

So would go with the majority who played that series (minus of course Broad)

So see no reason at all for wholesale changes just because they have been well beat in a country,where all teams, are well beat all of the time.

It’s more about learning some of the lessons of last summer and this series rather than changing personnel imo
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Fact is we didn't beat the Aussies last summer.
Pleasing to read though that McCullum accepts that there are lessons to be learnt.
Problem is next year's opposition aren't a great challenge especially on home soil and there are no obvious alternatives for the weak positions. Clearly Bairstow and Robinson have to go replaced by Brook and Potts. I'd also recall Jennings to bat at No 3.
 
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Parkside said:
Fact is we didn't beat the Aussies last summer.
Pleasing to read though that McCullum accepts that there are lessons to be learnt.
Problem is next year's opposition aren't a great challenge especially on home soil and there are no obvious alternatives for the weak positions. Clearly Bairstow and Robinson have to go replaced by Brook and Potts. I'd also recall Jennings to bat at No 3.
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I am more inclined to agree with your first point, in that hopefully McCullum learning lessons from some of defeats without changing the main thought process that has changed our fortunes around since he took over.

Player for player Australia have much better side than us, and don’t think we got enough recognition for the way we stood toe to toe to them in the summer and very unlucky not to win


And I agree no obvious alternatives that’s why would not change loads of players.

Personally think fully fit Robinson a better bowler than Potts, so guess over to Robinson to get himself there, if not only has himself to blame if he gets dropped.

Would definitely bring Brook back in but he probably pleased he wasn’t on this tour as his reputation actually enhanced by not been here.

IMO Jennings time has gone and agree with @rentaghost assessment of him earlier in the thread
 
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Parkside said:
Fact is we didn't beat the Aussies last summer.
Pleasing to read though that McCullum accepts that there are lessons to be learnt.
Problem is next year's opposition aren't a great challenge especially on home soil and there are no obvious alternatives for the weak positions. Clearly Bairstow and Robinson have to go replaced by Brook and Potts. I'd also recall Jennings to bat at No 3.
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I think they will go for Bohannon. I'm not sure of the point of Jennings - he might get some runs against weaker opposition or he might nick off as he did all of the time in his other 2 or 3 recalls showing his tested failure against the seaming ball. I think they are more likely to and should blood the next promising young player which i think will be Bohannon.

I like Pottsy and hope he gets another go. I hope he has improved against left handers which seemed to be a struggle for him.
 
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Pope very much in last chance saloon. Had it not been for there 196 in the first test he’d be out as he averaged about 14 outside of that innings.

Foakes for as good as his keeping is, it’s not as necessary in England and he completely failed with the bat in India. That said Jonny ‘Mason’ Burstow must be put out to pasture after his horrendous run. Although I’m not sure who there is to replace Foakes so might stick with him in the summer see how he gets on.

If Stokes is back bowling I’d be tempted by a lower order dasher who can bowl a bit, someone in the mould of Will Jacks as we won’t really need a front line spinner I wouldn’t imagine.

Crawley
Ducko
Pope
Root
Brook
Stokes
Foakes
Jacks
Potts
Tongue
Anderson
 
wayne entwhistle no9 said:
Plenty of opportunities for county cricketers to shine before test series later in the summer. Definitely time to move on from one or two current players.

From what i have seen i quite like Smith at Surrey, Rew at Somerset. Hopefully Potts gets a chance.

Spinner will be interesting two of the three youngsters who toured India probably not play first blick of championship matches.
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This board would have an absolute fit if another Surrey player was picked. Surrey/London bias and all that
Voice of fair play said:
Englands test record at home in recent times especially since new regime took over very good imo.
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We haven't won a home series since 2022.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
I am more inclined to agree with your first point, in that hopefully McCullum learning lessons from some of defeats without changing the main thought process that has changed our fortunes around since he took over.

Player for player Australia have much better side than us, and don’t think we got enough recognition for the way we stood toe to toe to them in the summer and very unlucky not to win


And I agree no obvious alternatives that’s why would not change loads of players.

Personally think fully fit Robinson a better bowler than Potts, so guess over to Robinson to get himself there, if not only has himself to blame if he gets dropped.

Would definitely bring Brook back in but he probably pleased he wasn’t on this tour as his reputation actually enhanced by not been here.

IMO Jennings time has gone and agree with @rentaghost assessment of him earlier in the thread
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it is 5 years since Jennings last played test cricket. He's an intelligent cricketer who recognised his weakness and would claim he's addressed.Nevertheless Bohannon does deserve an opportunity although he was disappointing for the Lions in India. Robinson 's performance in India suggests his indiscipline isn't going to be overcome.
Additonally ,as TheRey points out,our home from isn't very clever at all.
 
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Parkside said:
Pleasing to read though that McCullum accepts that there are lessons to be learnt.
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Dunno why Baz said that mind. According to some on here, everything is perfect, we're playing amazing cricket, and to wish for anything different is a desire to go back to the 90's. Everything is fine
 
I like the Jacks shout actually. Totally forgot about him. Can whack it at 7/8. Not sure his bowling’s much better than Root’s though.
 
TheRey said:
This board would have an absolute fit if another Surrey player was picked. Surrey/London bias and all that

We haven't won a home series since 2022.
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Seriously!!
Parkside said:
it is 5 years since Jennings last played test cricket. He's an intelligent cricketer who recognised his weakness and would claim he's addressed.Nevertheless Bohannon does deserve an opportunity although he was disappointing for the Lions in India. Robinson 's performance in India suggests his indiscipline isn't going to be overcome.
Additonally ,as TheRey points out,our home from isn't very clever at all.
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You as well???

Of course our home record recently is good.

For you to quote someone who says we have not won at home series since 2022.

When we only played one series since then then the world champions!
Parkside said:
it is 5 years since Jennings last played test cricket. He's an intelligent cricketer who recognised his weakness and would claim he's addressed.Nevertheless Bohannon does deserve an opportunity although he was disappointing for the Lions in India. Robinson 's performance in India suggests his indiscipline isn't going to be overcome.
Additonally ,as TheRey points out,our home from isn't very clever at all.
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Yeah it’s up to Robinson to pull himself together and get himself fit, if not like I say only himself to blame
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Seriously!!

You as well???

Of course our home record recently is good.

For you to quote someone who says we have not won at home series since 2022.

When we only played one series since then then the world champions!
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We won a one-off Test against an India side warming up for a WTC final, a New Zealand side absolutely over the hill and without key players, and snuck past a poor South Africa.
The only side of any quality, and we came up short.

It's a decent record out of context, but you're trying to make out it's akin to the Windies home record of the 80's!
 
TheRey said:
We won a one-off Test against an India side warming up for a WTC final, a New Zealand side absolutely over the hill and without key players, and snuck past a poor South Africa.
The only side of any quality, and we came up short.

It's a decent record out of context, but you're trying to make out it's akin to the Windies home record of the 80's!
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Not sure how drawing 2-2 against the best side in the world and only not winning because of 2 days of rain, is coming up short like?

Nobody mentioned the West Indies that you?

Fancy saying we have not won a home series since 2022, as if that shows we poor at home.

When we have played one series in that time and against the best team in the world!!
 
Voice of fair play said:
Not sure how drawing 2-2 against the best side in the world and only not winning because of 2 days of rain, is coming up short like?

Nobody mentioned the West Indies that you?

Fancy saying we have not won a home series since 2022, as if that shows we poor at home.

When we have played one series in that time and against the best team in the world!!
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And if England didn't bat like absolute dicks half the time (Lords anyone), we'd have won that series comfortably.

As they did bat like dicks, the Cons took the Urn back down under.
 
TheRey said:
And if England didn't bat like absolute dicks half the time (Lords anyone), we'd have won that series comfortably.

As they did bat like dicks, the Cons took the Urn back down under.
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Australia have better players than us imo, yet we would have won but for 2 days of rain.

And we won them others games you mentioned as well, we do have a good record recently at home, that’s the facts.

No sure why after years of negative cricket that saw us lose 1 in 17 tests, and one absolutely disgraceful time turn down chasing 277 in 77 overs in a fourth innings chase!

You seem so keen to pour such negativity on this regime that have won 14 tests since took over??

I think they is some balance to be had which some have made, and McCullum has alluded to in his latest interview to adapt more to the game situation and its more then fair to say that.

Of course not perfect nothing is but perspective needed

But it’s also fair to say this England side at home under his regime have done extremely well
 
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