Did you read my last post ?
Why the hate campaign against EVs?
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Billy Fish
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Yes, are you going to answer my question. You like people to answer the question not cherry pick.
I said if you have a home charger its massively beneficial. Is that not a positive?
Billy Fish
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It didn't answer my question though did it?
Tbf have you read thread the title? Dave's asking for negatives. Maybe you should ask the mods to change the title if hearing negatives bothers you, which it clearly is.
HoxtonMackem
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Circa £65 the total trip cost me.
Your behaviour on this thread is downright strange.
Imagine assuming a none instant response to someone on a football fans forum makes them sheepish or odd when folk have busy lives.
Why are you so enraged by the form of transport others take?
Got shares in shell or an avid MacMaster fanboy?
There’s a difference between debating and being childishly aggressive.
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Billy Fish
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Yes I've read the title and it's the same as I'm asking you.
It's not saying please list anything negative you might have about EVs. It's asking why is there a deliberate hate campaign being put in place about EVs with misinformation being put forward at every opportunity to put people off adopting EVs.
So what I'm trying to get at is what's your driver for persevering with it. What is it about EVs that worry you so much that you need to spend so much time accentuating the negatives.
Ned Land
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People aren’t ‘trolling’ they are mainly asking legitimate questions, and most EV owners are offering useful information in their replies.
Are you expecting a discussion to only have views that you agree with? You are shutting down debate by only wanting to hear positive feedback and opinion.
Billy Fish
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There's any amount of trolling gone on and a huge number of links from the anti EV campaign been posted. As you note EV owners have offered rational responses to counter them.
I'm not expecting a one way discussion, as I said earlier I'm trying to get to the crux of the thread title. I've asked Yamar what his driver is for spending so much time accentuating the negatives, that's what the thread was meant to be about. What is so bad about EVs that people want to put effort into fighting against them
really
that is for the 450ish trip isn’t it?
i'm quite shocked if it is unless i've got my wires crossed here.
we went to plymouth and back for about £85. the neck end of 800 miles.
PTR
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Quick charging is expensive. I thought everyone knew?really
that is for the 450ish trip isn’t it?
i'm quite shocked if it is unless i've got my wires crossed here.
we went to plymouth and back for about £85. the neck end of 800 miles.
I wouldn't recommend an EV to someone who would need to do it daily
Thankyou. Was just odd you were replying on the thread and ignoring the question.
Not to worry.
HoxtonMackem
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People aren’t ‘trolling’ they are mainly asking legitimate questions, and most EV owners are offering useful information in their replies.
Are you expecting a discussion to only have views that you agree with? You are shutting down debate by only wanting to hear positive feedback and opinion.
[/QUThe bulk of that cost was on both fast chargers on the m1.really
that is for the 450ish trip isn’t it?
i'm quite shocked if it is unless i've got my wires crossed here.
we went to plymouth and back for about £85. the neck end of 800 miles.
That is a twice or max three times a year distance trip for me.
Costs about £10-15 to fully charge at home which I do about once a week typically for normal commuting.
The big problem with most EV reviews are that they only look at long distance trips in almost every review or video as if they are the norm for everyone which isn’t true
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Motorway charging is eye watering. But if you own a home charger it cushions the blow if you can charge before hand.really
that is for the 450ish trip isn’t it?
i'm quite shocked if it is unless i've got my wires crossed here.
we went to plymouth and back for about £85. the neck end of 800 miles.
To let people know the negatives before they jump in, but ive already said this on the thread before if you keep up with it.
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HoxtonMackem
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Nowt about cushioning the blow.
It costs pennies relatively to charge at home for local driving.
People who don't own an EV don't know the prices, hence why im asking.
I know, ive said that. I'm talking about if you want to drive to the bottom of the country, for example.
Billy Fish
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Two of the biggest players in the public fast charge sector now are BP pulse and Shell recharge both charging upto 85p/kW. Tesla is able to sell their electric out at an average of about 41p/ kW on the fast chargers.
Is Tesla able to buy electric cheaper than BP & Shell? Is Tesla making a loss on the chargers?
Is there any reason Shell and BP want public charging to cost so much?
PTR
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Post 2000 odd on this thread alone though.People who don't own an EV don't know the prices, hence why im asking.
I know, ive said that. I'm talking about if you want to drive to the bottom of the country, for example.
It's been mentioned a fair few times
Tesla quite possibly only breaking even?
It's clearly expensive to build the infrastructure, hence the high prices.
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HoxtonMackem
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The issue is that most of the anti ev brigade haven't a clue about the prices either for short or long distance driving to back up their mud slinging.
That macmaster asks people in the comments for his videos to work it out for him.
The same bloke whose videos seem to feature in the main news rags online.
That macmaster asks people in the comments for his videos to work it out for him.
The same bloke whose videos seem to feature in the main news rags online.
Ned Land
Winger
I think that most people have reached similar conclusions by now, but there are still some ‘known un-knowns’ regarding aftersales, used EV prices etc. that will affect the choices of many drivers.
