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Pacific said:
what does failed to intervene even mean. have they drawn the lines wrong or just not bothered at all
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For once it was obvious to the naked eye 🤷🏻‍♂️
Sporty said:
It's already used in the World Cup, Champions League and other countries leagues such as Serie A in Italy and La Liga in Spain. I do know that there needs to be 12 cameras and not all PL grounds will have this installed. They also didn't want to install it as it's evolving so would soon be out of date!

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They were offered it for this season but refused it as clubs voted against it. They did bring in 4 extra cameras for it but obviously that still didn't stop what happened yesterday. Yet if VAR worked like rugby the officials would have clearly discussed what decision needed reviewing and realised their mistake rather than VAR just saying "Check complete". Or even simply by saying adding after the "Check complete, goal CORRECT decision" and the ref then saying "Ya daft knacker, it was flagged offside man" means the goal would have been given.

It will probably be in for next season now after this fuck up. Though even that wouldn't stop it as VAR thought it was onside anyway which is what the semi-automated stuff would have done.

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They need to improve communication and aye people say it's hectic given the audio that they've released but some of this is the players on the pitch moaning instantly. Again they need disciplined and instant yellow card if they go towards the ref while he's discussing owt with VAR. They will soon learn to keep their trap shut and even then just allow the captains to have a word when the ref allows like they do in rugby. Look at the difference in making this decision, especially at 32 secs when the ref tells a player to go away and he instantly does.

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or this as football players are neanderthal in comparison to the respect this ref gets from rugby players

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"It's not soccer" at 1 min 47 secs and again at 2:50 🤣 I don't watch rugby as I think it's shite but football needs to adapt to get players to act more like rugby players rather than whingey moaning twisty abusive brats
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Rugby players are taught respect for officials from the off and it’s not negotiable. Footballers the complete opposite, look at Rat Boy against Blackburn. It’s not even punished.
 
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JL1985 said:
Howard Webb is a moron. He’s probably been Man Utd best signing this summer.
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I’ll never forget his crouching shit position he used to adopt before giving a penalty against us. Twice he utterly fucked us over with ridiculous penalty decisions that I can recall. One at home against Everton when one of their players fell over his own feet about 2 yards outside the box and one at Newcastle when Taylor touched Malbranque on the shoulder before throwing himself to the floor.
 
Hettonlass said:
Liverpool make formal request to PGMOL for audio conversations between officials
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Liverpool just need to get over themselves. Which absolute dick advised them to make this 'formal' complaint that's going nowhere. Grow up. Appealing a red card as well on very technical grounds. Must have a.load of interns just arrived trying to make an impression. VAR is shit. It's an invention of a PL problem that never really existed in the real world. The PL.pays your wages. Suck it up.
 
Here's the audio from Var, knew the fucked up instantly. It should have been stopped after 1 second of the restart (by the laws I know they can't but Jesus, coomon sense should have prevailed.)

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the initial conversation on the check isn't as bad as some of the others released whereby it sounds like absolute chaos but it's still really unprofessional. all this mate etc needs to stop

looks like the replay bloke was the only person actually watching the game live though

all that'll happen is they'll change the required communication so that the final VAR decision has to be clearly stated rather than just saying something like check complete etc
 
johnhp said:
So the only person who knows what is going on is the replay technical guy
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Makes you wonder if Darren England was actually watching the game, as he seemed to think he was giving the goal, and then realised after the Replay guy had pointed out he had allowed the offside call to be okayed.
 
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