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It's not the technology that's the problem, it's the moronic dinosaur refs who can't use it properly. There should be 2-3 officials watching it back on a tele no more than 3 times who then tell the ref if it is offside or not, it should take no longer than 40-50 seconds, if they don't know after 2-3 rewinds then the ref makes the call anyway. The ref should not be over checking it himself for 5 minutes.
 

Wakoro said:
It's not the technology that's the problem, it's the moronic dinosaur refs who can't use it properly. There should be 2-3 officials watching it back on a tele no more than 3 times who then tell the ref if it is offside or not, it should take no longer than 40-50 seconds, if they don't know after 2-3 rewinds then the ref makes the call anyway. The ref should not be over checking it himself for 5 minutes.
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It'd help if they were watching the game too. Seems the berks upstairs weren't and the dozy fuckers thought he'd been given onside. Did their quick check and said they agreed with decision (not realising he'd been given offside) :lol:
 
jarrowdiamond said:
I'm leaning towards this now. It was supposed to make the game fair, allow everyone to come away knowing that the result they have just seen was a fair one, it's actually gotten worse.
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I know that's the 'popular' view but its actually bollocks. VAR does actually get most of the stuff right and the daft decision tonight gets rightly highlighted but before VAR there would be a handful of contentious offsides every week in the PL and maybe two or three of them would be wrong. Now they get the vast majority of them right. How many other offside errors have there been in the PL so far this season?

Offside should be the easiest of the lot for VAR but the people operating VAR are human and we all make mistakes as was highlighted tonight. Before VAR MOTD would have talked about 4 or 5 offsides rather than just this one.
 
I find it incomprehensible that the var evidence could have been interpreted so incorrectly by all the officials involved. VAR is in place for that reason so has failed badly. I can't wait to hear how what the FA say to defend it now.
 
70s traveller said:
Is it not their responsibillty to oversee such events in one of their games or has that changed now?
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I imagine it's down to the PGMOL and the Premier League.

The FA has no say whatsoever in the PL and its down to the clubs to decide everything even down to whether they used semi automated offsides if I remember correctly which they chose not to.

The FA are also in the process of selling the FA Cup over to the PL to run.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
I know that's the 'popular' view but its actually bollocks. VAR does actually get most of the stuff right and the daft decision tonight gets rightly highlighted but before VAR there would be a handful of contentious offsides every week in the PL and maybe two or three of them would be wrong. Now they get the vast majority of them right. How many other offside errors have there been in the PL so far this season?

Offside should be the easiest of the lot for VAR but the people operating VAR are human and we all make mistakes as was highlighted tonight. Before VAR MOTD would have talked about 4 or 5 offsides rather than just this one.
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What rubbish…. The whole sacrifice of having this wretched system was to get things right. It doesn’t. This discussion is about offside but what about the nonsense around handball ? Offside isn’t even the worst of it.

The price for slowing the game down is too high. Your argument that we have human error invalidates the whole case for VAR - and by the way, of course VAR can’t be error free (or corruption proof), but that is how it always was.
 
Doberman said:
they've judged the offside against the nearest full back and completely missed the centre half playing him onside as they've tried to get the game going again quickly. They've then realised there's a centre half possibly playing him on and have spent the rest of the game trying to find inches here and there to justify the offside. International broadcasters have beaten them to it, drawn their own lines, shown them up to be the clowns that they are and so the PGMOL have thrown together a statement to try and save themselves.

An absolute shit show.
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I was adamant at the time that it wasn’t offside, even when the goal was disallowed but then the commentator ( not Neville) came out with some absolute bollocks to try and justify the goal being ruled out which just didn’t make any sense which GN should have pulled him on but stayed unusually silemt .
It was all really shady imo.
 
Mowgli said:
I imagine it's down to the PGMOL and the Premier League.

The FA has no say whatsoever in the PL and its down to the clubs to decide everything even down to whether they used semi automated offsides if I remember correctly which they chose not to.

The FA are also in the process of selling the FA Cup over to the PL to run.
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Since the PL advent the running/management of the game has totally altered I agree, it has altered drastically which I'm out of touch with. But either way I await whoever's role it is to comment.
 
Pacific said:
VAR works fine abroad but we've got multiple fuck ups already this season. our officials are too incompetent to utilize the tech. bin it or get some new officials
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Get officials who have not gone through the refereeing system.
DJM said:
Complete and utter waste of space. Bin it.
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Nowt wrong with the technology. Just the incompetent idiots running it
 
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I hate var.
it’s made the game so much worse.
I was in favour of bringing it in beforehand aswell but until we get the fuckin idiots who get so many big calls wrong on the pitch held to account more, nothing will improve.
It’s a never ending shit circle though because the idiots who need replaced are backed up by another even bigger bunch of fools at championship level.
Then we trust the people who can have a look at multiple replays the same as we (the public) get and they still come to the opposite opinion of 90% of people but they’ve been the idiots making wrong decision after another for years and years or are in a position where they want to defend their workmates.

The game has gone.
The officiating is at a whole new low.
Week in week out they make an absolutey crazy decision with the advantage of seeing the incident multiple times.

It’s not on.
 
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