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Mason Greenwood statement
I want to start by saying I understand that people will judge me because of what they have seen and heard on social media, and I know people will think the worst.I was brought up to know that violence or abuse in any relationship is wrong, I did not do the things I was accused of, and in February I was cleared of all charges.However, I fully accept I made mistakes in my relationship, and I take my share of responsibility for the situations which led to the social media post.
I am learning to understand my responsibilities to set a good example as a professional footballer, and I’m focused on the big responsibility of being a father, as well as a good partner. Today’s decision has been part of a collaborative process between Manchester United, my family and me.
The best decision for us all, is for me to continue my football career away from Old Trafford, where my presence will not be a distraction for the club. I thank the club for their support since I joined aged seven. There will always be a part of me which is United.
I am enormously grateful to my family and all my loved ones for their support, and it is now for me to repay the trust those around me have shown. I intend to be a better footballer, but most importantly a good father, a better person, and to use my talents in a positive way on and off the pitch.
I want to start by saying I understand that people will judge me because of what they have seen and heard on social media, and I know people will think the worst.I was brought up to know that violence or abuse in any relationship is wrong, I did not do the things I was accused of, and in February I was cleared of all charges.However, I fully accept I made mistakes in my relationship, and I take my share of responsibility for the situations which led to the social media post.
I am learning to understand my responsibilities to set a good example as a professional footballer, and I’m focused on the big responsibility of being a father, as well as a good partner. Today’s decision has been part of a collaborative process between Manchester United, my family and me.
The best decision for us all, is for me to continue my football career away from Old Trafford, where my presence will not be a distraction for the club. I thank the club for their support since I joined aged seven. There will always be a part of me which is United.
I am enormously grateful to my family and all my loved ones for their support, and it is now for me to repay the trust those around me have shown. I intend to be a better footballer, but most importantly a good father, a better person, and to use my talents in a positive way on and off the pitch.
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Mackem Al
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The added context at the bottom where it states he wasn't cleared of charges, but charges were dropped is the key part there. A very distinct difference.
Fats
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Not really. It's simply to highlight the double standards that football fans have, hence the allusion to the new Paddy Power advert (have you heard it yet?)Now that is a quite laughable comparison. Fair play.
No. I'm comparing the double standards football fans have.
Mackem00
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It's a ridiculous piece of whataboutery. The two things aren't even remotely comparable.
Don't know what advert you are referring to.
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woodlebert
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Do you mind outlining how - if that is the case - they are the same thing & as bad as each other?
Fats
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No, they are nowhere near as bad as each other. And, for someone who gets upset when posters make inferences that aren't there, quite suprised you've gone down that route.
As mentioned above, I simply meant to demonstrate the double standards football fans have. Obviously I didn't demonstrate it very well, but the reference to the new Paddy power advert should have indicated exactly what I was trying to get at.
Mackem00
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The only Paddy Power advert I've seen is the one that takes the piss out of the mags. Is there another one?
You didn't do a very good job.
Fats
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It is taking the piss out of the Mags, but the point remains the same.
Football fan waffling on about how his club is different & the fans wouldn't accept a take-over from outsiders. Cue the news the club has been bought by oil rich investors & all of sudden it's happy days.
The vast majority of football fans, no matter which club they support, will get on their high horse & preach at Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal etc. yet if the money came their club's way, they'd think of reasons why they can take the politics out of the investment.
Obviously
woodlebert
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I don’t know what advert you mean, I haven’t seen it. I’ll have a look
If they’re nowhere near as bad as each other, and therefore have different tolerance thresholds, then what’s the relevance of Di Canio? You’re saying yourself some things are worse than others and therefore (I assume) worth getting more worked up/angry about than others
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Some truth in this mind.
Fats
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Double standards simple as.
If the Saudi's had chosen to invest in Sunderland, do you seriously think the vast majority of our fans would not have celebrated the same way Mags have done?
Mackem00
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It's taking the piss out of the mags because they are the only ones who have bent over and willfully encouraged the taking over of their club by a nation state with direct links to terrorism on a global scale along with many other horrendous crimes against women and children.
You have no other example of this happening as it hasn't happened before or since.
Strange to defend them like this but each to their own.
woodlebert
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But how is it double standards if you’re saying they aren’t as bad as each other?
That’s just different thresholds or tolerances for bad things, which everybody has
If somebody commits a minor crime and somebody else a major crime, I would more comfortable with the person who had committed the minor crime playing for us. That’s not double standards, it’s varying levels of tolerance. It’s only double standards if the crimes are the same/on the same level
Mackem00
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It's the old "if you earn a good wage you can't have socialist values" type argument.
You have to live the life of a monk or you are a complete hypocrite.
Fats
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Football is full of different standards, it's human nature & it happens in all walks of life.
Try the Daily Mail or The Sun with their treatment of Huw Edwards & compare it to Dan Wooten
Try our fans' attitude to O'9 & then look at how other fans view him.
Look at the majority of our fans towards Henderson accepting Saudi money
Look at how Man City, and others, complain how Chelsea are financing their purchases
Can you hand on heart, really say, if the Saudi's had chosen to invest in Sunderland you would have walked away?
You really are desperate
That's as maybe. The point remains as I've now said too many times.
If the Saudi's had chosen to invest in Sunderland, how many fans do you seriously think would have protested?
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woodlebert
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We have no idea so it can’t be used as an example of double standards
I get the sense it would have been less welcomed than Newcastle. They also didn’t like Ashley more than we dislike KLD (or was it Donald at the time?). So a lot of their excitement was wrapped up in that too I would think
You say “the point remains” but that doesn’t make it a strong point. It simply isn’t double standards as you yourself have said all of these things hit at different levels morally, that’s not how double standards work
Missed your comment about my character & inferences earlier. That’s why I made that inference I suppose; because you must have been equating the things. If not, it’s not double standards
Mackem00
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Desperate to not defend the mags with allsorts of shite whataboutery? You've got me bang to rights there mind.
