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The Independent Commission For Equity In Cricket

pavarotti1980 said:
Yes my son and nephew (different schools in Gateshead) have recently played matches against Framwellgate and King Edwards (from Morpeth) respectively.

Its not clouding anything. I am merely saying that my own lived experiences of cricket for 30 years do not replicate the findings of the report. So to say it is a "cricket problem" is disingenuous and there should be further work done
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the 2 statements you make there are contradictory like
 

pavarotti1980 said:
Yes my son and nephew (different schools in Gateshead) have recently played matches against Framwellgate and King Edwards (from Morpeth) respectively.
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So the report is inaccurate? It seems odd that the head of the ECB has said one thing and and a bloke on a Sunderland footy forum is saying it's not true, cricket is alive and well in state schools.
 
smoker said:
Matty Potts had to leave Venerable Bede and go to Robert of Newminster just to play cricket. To this point, most of his cricket was at Philadelphia CC.

Read the report. Class based discrimination is covered.
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I have. Isnt St Roberts in Washington (Sunderland)?
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Just seen this on BBC news. Led by a black woman claiming racism and that black people don't play the game.... The very next story on BBC breakfast... Rehan Ahmed is in the England squad. As the wife shouted at the TV just now "a crock of shit". I guess if you look hard and deepen enough you will always find issues to suit a narrative. I've seen it old and young, men and women, black and white all at this game down in Leicester so far this week. Very much a game for all in my opinion.
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Well if only the enquiry had your opinion to hand we could have saved so much time and effort and all that asking people who were actually professional cricketers what their actual experiences were:

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BiG said:
Well if only the enquiry had your opinion to hand we could have saved so much time and effort and all that asking people who were actually professional cricketers what their actual experiences were:

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Well if they are gonna criticise the game as a whole it may have been an idea to speak to regular attenders of county clubs. Sat here now it's very much game for all.
 
pavarotti1980 said:
I have. Isnt St Roberts in Washington (Sunderland)?
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I have no idea if the previous poster was classing Washington as part of Sunderland.

What about Farringdon Community Sports College: pretty sure they don't support cricket and SB had to learn it at Philadelphia as well. If it wasn't for that club and these lads having parents and grandparents prepared to drive them to games and buy gear they'd have fallen through the net.
 
I know you can only go or your own expericence, but on both sides of the argument it’s not really wise to draw wider conclusions from it, that’s why you look at the make up of the game as a whole
 
MustardAndOnions said:
I think you have your head buried in the sand like.
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Maybe me and my wife have but we'll stick with our view. She's not had a spot of bother watching cricket concerning sexism or her disability, in fact clubs have gone out their way to help with access needs. All over the North East cricket clubs galore. It's a very accessible sport for all ages. Much prefer this game to watching football. Sorry but neither of us buy into this report but I guess many will disagree. As I've posted above I played cricket quite often at Wellfield School in Wingate and we always had a bat and ball out in the street as kids.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Maybe me and my wife have but we'll stick with our view. She's not had a spot of bother watching cricket concerning sexism or her disability, in fact clubs have gone out their way to help with access needs. All over the North East cricket clubs galore. It's a very accessible sport for all ages. Much prefer this game to watching football. Sorry but neither of us buy into this report but I guess many will disagree. As I've posted above I played cricket quite often at Wellfield School in Wingate and we always had a bat and ball out in the street as kids.
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Why are the majority of cricketers in the England team the last 20 years from private schools then?
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Well if they are gonna criticise the game as a whole it may have been an idea to speak to regular attenders of county clubs. Sat here now it's very much game for all.
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The enquiry and report is surely not about what the attendees think or see, it's about what goes on behind the scenes. Its like saying that the investigation into Jeffrey Bersteins activities and crimes is at fault because they didn't ask a few people whether or not they liked his films.
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Just seen this on BBC news. Led by a black woman claiming racism and that black people don't play the game.... The very next story on BBC breakfast... Rehan Ahmed is in the England squad. As the wife shouted at the TV just now "a crock of shit". I guess if you look hard and deepen enough you will always find issues to suit a narrative. I've seen it old and young, men and women, black and white all at this game down in Leicester so far this week. Very much a game for all in my opinion.
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I, for one, am shocked and stunned that our resident BNP voter has dismissed this report out of hand. No surprise that you referenced the skin colour of the chairwoman and that this must mean that the report is biased.
 
Btw I agree Durham are mint, but we need to realise the isn’t the case across the country

Burns made it through the surrey system as state but all the rest went to the best schools in the country, Curran’s, jacks, sibley etc
 
Steak Pie said:
I, for one, am shocked and stunned that our resident BNP voter has dismissed this report out of hand. No surprise that you referenced the skin colour of the chairwoman and that this must mean that the report is biased.
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Notice you ignore the view of my wife though.... Any reason for that?
 
MustardAndOnions said:
I think you are letting your own experience cloud a wider point that it isn't an experience replicated all over the country.

8/9 of the XI playin tomorrow went to private schools, what percentage of the country goes to private schools? not 80% like.
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93% of the country are state educated. I reckon 93%+ of the kids coming through up here are also state educated, although I suspect it’s different down south where as a sport it’s almost wiped out in inner city London etc. So no class issue in the NE on that score, based on what I see.

The issue is getting that 93% up here to elite level. Most will only play cricket at their club while the private/ public school kids get top quality coaching at schools layered on top of that.

I don’t buy that NE cricket has big issues in the grass roots club system. But it does in terms of schools themselves.
 
If I remember correctly we did play cricket fleetingly at my state school. When I say play we had some plastic stumps put up in the sports hall whilst the teacher bowled under arm at us and we were encouraged to smack it as hard as we could.

During the 2005 Ashes is the only time I remember going up the field with my mates and actively wanting to play cricket and that was only because one of us had a bat, ball, helmet etc…

As soon as the Ashes was over it was back to football.
 
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