The Independent Commission For Equity In Cricket

[smoker]

Cricket has always been classist, elitist, sexist and by proxy probably racist (as minorities are usually lower class etc). I don't think the report is that much of a suprise. Obviously they've tried to expand to be more inclusive in the last decade but that's still in progress

This. Already posted my experience of my cricket loving daughter and elitism at a local club with a supposedly 'brilliant' youth set-up. Development is built around the social group of captain and friends and family of the club. Outsiders can go hang. If you bring minorities into the equation, this elitism is inevitably going to create a representation problem.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Without a doubt.

I guess can only go off personal experiences. I was very much from a working class background and got into cricket through primary school who then said go to your local club. Did that and played for nearly 30 years. I had cheap as shit kit when I was young but parents and grandparents sacrificed things themselves to allow me and my brother the opportunities to do things we enjoyed.

 

[smoker]

Does being from a working class background inhibit your ability to participate in cricket?

Not sure if serious. Did you see Andrew Flintoff's Field of Dreams?

 

[MustardAndOnions]

I guess can only go off personal experiences. I was very much from a working class background and got into cricket through primary school who then said go to your local club. Did that and played for nearly 30 years. I had cheap as shit kit when I was young but parents and grandparents sacrificed things themselves to allow me and my brother the opportunities to do things we enjoyed.

No state schools play cricket

Private schools, not only do they have top coaches, often ex players, they can net every day if they want, its ridiculous.

the whole system in cricket is geared towards private schools

 

[smoker]

I guess can only go off personal experiences. I was very much from a working class background and got into cricket through primary school who then said go to your local club. Did that and played for nearly 30 years. I had cheap as shit kit when I was young but parents and grandparents sacrificed things themselves to allow me and my brother the opportunities to do things we enjoyed.

How many state schools offer cricket? Gear, coaching and facilities are expensive, participation can be fleeting so kids find it boring.

Cheap kit is a health and safety and litigation issue now. We used to have a bat, one pad and a box.

 

[seaham ftm]

I guess can only go off personal experiences. I was very much from a working class background and got into cricket through primary school who then said go to your local club. Did that and played for nearly 30 years. I had cheap as shit kit when I was young but parents and grandparents sacrificed things themselves to allow me and my brother the opportunities to do things we enjoyed.

Cricket is rarely even played at schools now unless they’re fairly wealthy schools.

I’ve seen elitism at Durham when kids are picked to play for Durham depending on if the club they’re at are one of the more ‘fashionable clubs’ unless they’re a serious talent playing at a lesser club. Then They’re encouraged to leave said lesser club.

 

[MustardAndOnions]

You can absolutely make it from a state school, but my feeling is you either need to be freakishly talented or just have a family member who is absolutely cricket obsessed driving you.

if you go to a private school, you dont need either,

we know cricket is a strange sport, its not like football when you can just grab a footy and play with your mates, it takes a lot more effort. Private schools take that effort away.

 

[pavarotti1980]

No state schools play cricket

yes they do. I did in the 1990s and my son and nephew both play cricket for their respective state schools.

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

yes they do. I did in the 1990s and my son and nephew both play cricket for their respective state schools.

I played cricket loads at Wellfield School.

 

[MustardAndOnions]

yes they do. I did in the 1990s and my son and nephew both play cricket for their respective state schools.

not many do then. Mine didn't, and nobody that I know did. I was born in 1988.

My school is also a 5 minute walk from the Riverside cricket ground, so think that says a lot

Its better now mind. they have links.

 

[consettsafc]

I may be wrong here but I believe Durham have a large percentage of their players come from a state school background?

 

[pavarotti1980]

not many do then. Mine didn't, and nobody that I know did. I was born in 1988.

So some do then...

 

[Ivor Biggun]

yes they do. I did in the 1990s and my son and nephew both play cricket for their respective state schools.

There's no state schools in Sunderland playing cricket.

I may be wrong here but I believe Durham have a large percentage of their players come from a state school background?

More through local clubs than schools isn't it?

 

[pavarotti1980]

There's no state schools in Sunderland playing cricket.

But there is in Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and Durham

 

[MustardAndOnions]

I may be wrong here but I believe Durham have a large percentage of their players come from a state school background?

Yeah Durham is the big success story in the country, which is why the ECB action they took I think enrages so many people

So some do then...

not many. I am not sure you are really understanding the issues in cricket like if you think there is nothing to see here.

 

[consettsafc]

There's no state schools in Sunderland playing cricket.


More through local clubs than schools isn't it?

Probably Collinwood went to a state school but the family have a lot to do with Shotley Bridge cricket club

 

[pavarotti1980]

Yeah Durham is the big success story in the country, which is why the ECB action they took I think enrages so many people


not many. I am not sure you are really understanding the issues in cricket like if you think there is nothing to see here.

You seem to have taken what I said and made up a different conclusion. When have I said there is nothing to see here. I am disputing based on personal experiences that some of the issues raised are a "cricket" problem and it may be more than just a big grandstanding one size fits all issue.

 

[Ivor Biggun]

But there is in Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and Durham

Do you have evidence of that? Even Richard Thompson acknowledged this morning that cricket is very rarely played in state schools and it's a big problem.

 

[MustardAndOnions]

You seem to have taken what I said and made up a different conclusion. When have I said there is nothing to see here. I am disputing based on personal experiences that some of the issues raised are a "cricket" problem and it may be more than just a big grandstanding one size fits all issue.

I think you are letting your own experience cloud a wider point that it isn't an experience replicated all over the country.

8/9 of the XI playin tomorrow went to private schools, what percentage of the country goes to private schools? not 80% like.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Do you have evidence of that? Even Richard Thompson acknowledged this morning that cricket is very rarely played in state schools and it's a big problem.

Yes my son and nephew (different schools in Gateshead) have recently played matches against Framwellgate and King Edwards (from Morpeth) respectively.

I think you are letting your own experience cloud a wider point that it isn't an experience replicated all over the country.

8/9 of the XI playin tomorrow went to private schools, what percentage of the country goes to private schools? not 80% like.

Its not clouding anything. I am merely saying that my own lived experiences of cricket for 30 years do not replicate the findings of the report. So to say it is a "cricket problem" is disingenuous and there should be further work done