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Tony Mowbray


ClassicDom said:
How are Southampton doing under their model there?
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Under the model when they had Cortese as Chief Exec from 2009 to 2014? Very successful, back to back promotions, brought in Pochettino after Adkins and the following season ended up 8th in the PL, followed by 7th the following season.
 
Super Ted said:
Under the model when they had Cortese as Chief Exec from 2009 to 2014 when they were ran by Cortese? Very successful, back to back promotions, brought in Pochettino after Adkins and the following season ended up 8th in the PL, followed by 7th the following season.
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And how are they doing now under their model there? Which is the question I literally asked.

Or are you ignoring how they hired highly rated Nathan jones, highly rated Heisenhuttl and highly rated Selles?
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Mad how people make things up just for 'likes'
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On the plus side the club has managed to unite the fan base. Just uniting them against them rather than with them. Quite the feat after the season we’ve had, and in a far quicker time than it took with Donald and methven.
 
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ClassicDom said:
And how are they doing now under their model there? Which is the question I literally asked.

On the plus side the club has managed to unite the fan base. Just uniting them against them rather than with them. Quite the feat after the season we’ve had, and in a far quicker time than it took with Donald and methven.
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I'm talking about posters on here saying people on here wanting TM gone...not one person has said that. Posters just saying it and making stuff up. Sad.
 
ClassicDom said:
And how are they doing now under their model there? Which is the question I literally asked.

On the plus side the club has managed to unite the fan base. Just uniting them against them rather than with them. Quite the feat after the season we’ve had, and in a far quicker time than it took with Donald and methven.
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What has how they are doing now got anything to do with the original point I was making about the clubs being on similar trajectory paths? They have different owners, a different chief exec, completely different staff, It's like comparing apples and oranges.
 
People need to get over this, he was never ever a long term appointment, he was always leaving weather it was this summer or next

Sounds like the club have identified two coaches who they want and are available

im more than happy if they move now knowing that if they wait around they might not be available
 
biggie said:
People need to get over this, he was never ever a long term appointment, he was always leaving weather it was this summer or next

Sounds like the club have identified two coaches who they want and are available

im more than happy if they move now knowing that if they wait around they might not be available
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Like i said before, football is a ruthless business...no room for senitiment.
 
Super Ted said:
What has how they are doing now got anything to do with the original point I was making about the clubs being on similar trajectory paths? They have different owners, a different chief exec, completely different staff, It's like comparing apples and oranges.
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So what you’re saying is that your comparison of two clubs over a decade apart is facile? Super.
 
biggie said:
People need to get over this, he was never ever a long term appointment, he was always leaving weather it was this summer or next

Sounds like the club have identified two coaches who they want and are available

im more than happy if they move now knowing that if they wait around they might not be available
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Be careful what you wish for.

Boro did this when we went with Wilder who spent his entire time with us looking for the next job. Sometimes it's about the fit with the club more than coaching ability and you can't quantify that with stats.
 
Super Ted said:
The point I'm making is that they went for a manager who was relatively unknown to replace a manager who was doing a good job in the lower divisions and ultimately hit his ceiling once they were in the PL. The manager they got in has ended up being one of the best managers in world football and he took Southampton to heights that were beyond Adkins.

The trajectory of Southampton and Sunderland in comparison is very similar that both clubs progressed through the league to a point they are now pushing to be in the PL and then beyond.
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I agree with that but they brought in Poch whilst in the Prem after consolidating. Adkins was relatively untested at that level. We would be replacing Mowbray, an incredibly solid manager at this level, for some untried, flavour of the month. I'm not saying it wont work. I'm saying it is incredibly risky and in my opinion fool hardy to replace a guy who is getting the most out of a threadbare squad.

With some backing and clever recruitment, distinct possibility we would have a chance of getting top 6 again. Top 2 is always a long shot without parachute millions.
 
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If Mowbray goes, then all i can see is half the squad going also! Then when the footy next season resorts to being shite and not very easy on the eye, the crowd will turn, rightly so imho, the atmosphere will turn toxic and all the good work from the last two years will be undone! f***ing brainless! FTM
 
ClassicDom said:
So what you’re saying is that your comparison of two clubs over a decade apart is facile? Super.
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I am comparing it because both clubs were in a unique situation whereby they were massively underperforming in the lower leagues and then a quick trajectory took them close (and to) the highest division. Both clubs operated with a DoF model and both clubs apparently looked for change despite relative stability.
 
CW7 said:
If Mowbray goes, then all i can see is half the squad going also! Then when the footy next season resorts to being shite and not very easy on the eye, the crowd will turn, rightly so imho, the atmosphere will turn toxic and all the good work from the last two years will be undone! f***ing brainless! FTM
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Players aren't going to walk out because Mowbray has gone :lol:
 
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