dom
Striker
Yeah but we need to remember they do have a group NUFC Against Sportswashing
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Selling the soul of your club to be successful
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Georgewhitt
Winger
Going a bit deeper with this, but I don't believe the soul of this club can be sold.
It's not a tangible thing.
The "owners" of this club don't own the club. They own the real estate, the buildings, the fixtures and fittings. They own the contracts of the players. They own the SOL.
The soul of this club is non of those things.
The soul is the feeling. The love. The passion. The soul is no more the SOL than it was Roker. Roker Park is history. It's gone, but the soul of this club is still here. It's etherial heart beating as strongly as ever.
The soul was built around dreams that players and fans had in 37 and 73. The soul is the love you carry for memories of nights in the Fulwell, or memories of missed penaltys at Wembley. The soul is the joy you feel when you get a ticket, the pride you feel when the Red and White stripes come out of that tunnel.
The soul is built on the heartbreak of relegation and the euphoria of promotion.
Whoever signs the cheque is not buying that.
They are temporarily renting it.
Its not for sale.
Now, or ever.
It's not a tangible thing.
The "owners" of this club don't own the club. They own the real estate, the buildings, the fixtures and fittings. They own the contracts of the players. They own the SOL.
The soul of this club is non of those things.
The soul is the feeling. The love. The passion. The soul is no more the SOL than it was Roker. Roker Park is history. It's gone, but the soul of this club is still here. It's etherial heart beating as strongly as ever.
The soul was built around dreams that players and fans had in 37 and 73. The soul is the love you carry for memories of nights in the Fulwell, or memories of missed penaltys at Wembley. The soul is the joy you feel when you get a ticket, the pride you feel when the Red and White stripes come out of that tunnel.
The soul is built on the heartbreak of relegation and the euphoria of promotion.
Whoever signs the cheque is not buying that.
They are temporarily renting it.
Its not for sale.
Now, or ever.
Flea Market Trader
Striker
Roughly translated from how I saw this was ok erm since this was arranged by our government we shall therefore just avoid the question and brush the whole thing under the carpet,,,,,however if we should say no longer require Saudi Arabia for oil, should maybe the war in Ukraine mean we look elsewhere for resources then we shall take a look. What a heap of dog shit.
SR2
Full Back
I would.
Would rather be involved than massively cut adrift where eventually no one will give a fuck about any teams outside the top 10 of the top leagues.
Kinda like saying: Would you rather live in your 2 bedroom flat youve been brought up in as a kid or come into some money and move into a huge house with 6 bedrooms and a swimming pool
Would rather be involved than massively cut adrift where eventually no one will give a fuck about any teams outside the top 10 of the top leagues.
Kinda like saying: Would you rather live in your 2 bedroom flat youve been brought up in as a kid or come into some money and move into a huge house with 6 bedrooms and a swimming pool
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woodlebert
Striker
It’s not. You’d have to buy the 6 bed home with laundered money or blood money or something to make it work a bit better. It ignores the premise of the thread which is the perceived trade off of “selling your soul” for success
MadDogMalky
Goalkeeper
I would rather the club was owned by your average billionaire family (Even that sounds odd) than owned by a country. Especially a country as dodgy as that one. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of things there and something mega disastrous happens to wipe the smiles off their faces. But if not and they become successful, watch then twisting their tits in a couple of years time when the prices become huge alongside the London and Manchester clubs. For me, I'm happy how this seaon turned out, safe from relegation, playing other clubs with similar standards when it comes to who owns them, and a manager and recruitment team that seem level headed and steady. Compared to who owns the scum, and what happened to us the last 4 years, I'm happy to stay where we are.
Lukas73
Striker
Bravo sir....Bravo...
This. Look at Michael martins twitter he is as far left as it comes calling out anything and everything politically, he then presides to stick up for the Saudi Arabian government (the very regime that should be everything the left stand against) at any opportunity
Hypocrites
When you’re running around in a Saudi Arabia strip and being summoned every half term to prance about for their pleasure at the expense of your dignity sold is exactly what you are. They’ll win stuff but it’ll not be the same mags I can’t stand.
Georgewhitt
Winger
Marra, if we sell the club to owners like that, I am done until they are gone.
But the soul of the club I love will live on with me until they are gone and way beyond.
Grimes
Striker
I don’t get the really daft comments about not wanting us to get promoted. Surely if you hate the top 6/Saudis so much you’d want us to be in with a chance of rattling their cage. We won’t get that in the championship. Brentford, Fulham, and Brighton are in the top 10 and have pulled off some fantastic results against the bigger teams.
Be Here Now
Striker
People who dont want to get promoted may as well go and support someone like Preston
Georgewhitt
Winger
I really don't think that any true fan doesn't want promotion.
This thread is about the moral price of that success.
Personally, I would rather what we have, than the moral cost of success under a tyranic bloodstained regime.
Just my opinion.
I’d like to think if we were bought by a regime like the mags, that my morals would prevent me from going. Put on the spot, and asked right now, I’d say that I wouldn’t go anymore.
The reality is though, Wembley last year with my 13 year old was a special day for us. I’d miss meeting my dad and my brother with the bairn for the match. I don’t know if I could give that away.
Georgewhitt
Winger
I get that marra.
It's about community as well. About family. About a common love for something that brings you all together. A good thing.
I don't have those pressures, so I can make my stand without losing any of those things.
For alot of people, you included, it is not a simple question to answer.
I've bookmarked your post, so if it ever happens, you are the perfect example of why some may stick with it, and rightly so for some.
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woodlebert
Striker
I don’t actually agree with that, as much as it pains me to say.
I have Man City supporting friends who love their team just as much as ever but are aware the relationship changed when they were taken over. The relationship is diluted by the money somehow, it’s hard for them to describe. They can’t hug the person in the seat next to them because they’re taking selfies or whatever. Little things like that, but the soul does change
tony_not_in_london
Midfield
Not sure
Underneath all the tea towel wearing and Whataboutery, I suspect the same old gravy swilling, phone box wrecking, horse punching values hold for the average Mag … and will reassert themselves once the Saudi interlude of blood stained success passes
Georgewhitt
Winger
No marra. You are actually agreeing with that.
The issue is the relationship with the owners.
The soul doesn't change because the name over the door changes.
The true Man City fans are the ones with the soul of the club in their hearts, regardless of the ownership.
If we were bought out by a regime like the Mags or City, I would still feel part of the soul of the club.
I wouldn't go, I wouldn't but merch, I would simply walk away. But 58 years of my love for the club would be entwined in the soul of it.
And I would be back ( if still alive) after the murdering bastards had gone.
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woodlebert
Striker
I feel like that’s a really hard thing to define. You say you might not come back. What if the club was filled with people who were new to it, it meant little to, and who the world perceived us through? Your relationship might still remember 1973 etc, but the core of the club would shift.
For me, and it genuinely hurts me to say it. Appreciate what you’re saying, but we probably won’t agree here (which is fine)
