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Selling the soul of your club to be successful

dom said:
Do you wish the Saudis would buy us or do you think football is finished going down this route of highest bidder takes all?
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Not up to any of us really is it?
supporters are a peripheral part of the Premier league
Its a difficult question,
"Would you settle for The Saudis?"
The other option is....
"are you happy with winning jacksh*t, if you don't"

for myself?

No I wouldn't want it, much as I complain on here about losing to fleetwood etc...Thats how I think it should be, thats what makes a football supporter, thats what builds you up against against lifes adversities.
I'm not going down the route of Shankly "
"footballs not life or death..its more serious than that"
Cos thats a bloke who probably never had to wait for a blood result on his kid, or wife or himself......its bollox

Me Grandkid would take it, but thats how it goes, its a different mindset,

and besides

I f.ookin' love moaning about stuff...whats life without having a good "Mump" about summat?



Hardly worth living
 

scott934 said:
I think the perfect fan experience in my lifetime is Leicester City. Been shite but won a few cups, came from nowhere to win the league, had a QF run in the Champions League, and are probably gonna return to being shite with some unbelievable memories.

I think it must be boring to be a Man City fan, you should win every game so when you don't it's annoying and when you do it's more like relief than joy.

In short, nah I wouldn't want a Saudi/Qatar/UAE state ownership, even leaving aside the morality aspect.
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Couldn't have put it better.

This is entirely my thoughts on modern football.

(Been watching the lads since the mid seventies)
 
Lucky1985 said:
I’m honestly at a point now where’s I don’t think I want us to get promoted.

We won’t ever break into the top 6 unless there are systemic changes in the football league system, and so I’m enjoying being one of the bigger fish in the pond that is the championship this season where we don’t desperately need to win and losing doesn’t ruin my weekend
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Top 7 now
 
The mags are trying to comfort themselves by saying other fans would be the same, the truth is, they wouldn't be, it can't sit right with them, the few intelligent fans amongst their support that is.
 
hodge1973 said:
Id rather be scrapping to stay up in the premier league than be a nearly team in the championship tbh, ill always want to see Sunderland playing at the highest possible level. I dont really see the point otherwise.
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It's been good to have a season off from all the stresses mind. I was really worried before the season started but after half a dozen games I realised we could compete at this level and wouldn't be in a relegation fight.
 
SAFCOldie said:
It's been good to have a season off from all the stresses mind. I was really worried before the season started but after half a dozen games I realised we could compete at this level and wouldn't be in a relegation fight.
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Yeah i agree as a one off but to accept this as a going concern would make it totally pointless buying a season ticket.
 
gipetto said:
The mags are trying to comfort themselves by saying other fans would be the same, the truth is, they wouldn't be, it can't sit right with them, the few intelligent fans amongst their support that is.
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Yet to hear anything other than buzzing about it from any of theirs that I know
hodge1973 said:
Id rather be scrapping to stay up in the premier league than be a nearly team in the championship tbh, ill always want to see Sunderland playing at the highest possible level. I dont really see the point otherwise.
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Think more that it’s one of the two is best outcome is what depressing as football shouldn’t have got itself in the state it has. Pure greed from those running football has got us in a position where only money from a very questionable oil state or massive amounts of debt that can threaten your clubs existence if you a poor season or two have got us where we are
 
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We could have all the money in the world, superstar players, cabinets full of trophies paid for with blood Money but no single moment would surpass the feeling we all got when Ross Stewart slotted home the 2nd. Ask genuine Man City fans their favourite memory and I guarantee the Gillingham play off final is said more than once.
 
I wouldn’t want to be owned by murderers but I’d happily be the richest club in the world where we could attract the best players. I get it when people say it must be boring for man city fans but do you honestly think they would rather go back to league 1 with shaun goater up front? No chance. Just to have a taste of success would be nice. A trophy every 5/10 year. I have a few friends who are Newcastle fans and they obviously had the champions league days and they said the away days going to places like barca and milan ( could be wrong about them teams) were amazing which I don’t doubt it was. Imagine thinking you were going to an away game in spain to watch Sunderland in the champions league. Must be amazing
 
5527kilometersAway said:
Sometimes I wonder if fans of teams like man city and PSG even enjoy it that much after awhile. It must be strange to be expected to win every single match.

I can imagine it's fun to watch some of the best players in the world on your team but winning because you spend more than everyone else has to dampen the excitement a little bit.
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This ^^^ like playing a computer game with infinite lives, totally removes the sense of accomplishment
burb said:
If we were in Newcastles position chasing champions league football, the SOL would be a sell out every week and would need to look at extending the South stand, murderous owners or not.
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It would never feel as good as when we did that under reidy - but on our own merits.

Like paying for a prossie and thinking they really like you.
hodge1973 said:
Yeah i agree as a one off but to accept this as a going concern would make it totally pointless buying a season ticket.
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Same as the premier league?
 
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5527kilometersAway said:
I can imagine it's fun to watch some of the best players in the world on your team but winning because you spend more than everyone else has to dampen the excitement a little bit.
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Quite like watching 09's pass out of defence last week. Happens all the time at the top level. I heard some lad say it was the best pass he'd ever seen at the SoL
 
Safc98 said:
I see people complain about an extra £5 for a ticket but call the owner “cheap” for not spending £50m in January
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Who's these wanting 50m spent like? I've honestly not seen anyone wanting fasts amounts spent just a f***ing striker brought in that would have seen us mount a credible play off push is what I've been reading the past few months as the lack of striker has hit home.
 
Probably be class from the mags point of view for a few years but as soon as they move to a soulless new arena somewhere like Longbenton later in the decade (been earmarked as wanted land by the club since HMRC announced it was for sale) with season tickets £1000+ and match tickets north of £100 with loads of new plastics coming up from the rest of the country to support them (the weird 2nd club / weird southerners type folk) it’ll be rancid imo.

That’s before you consider the Saudis will take them into a European elite league and ditch the PL.

Oh and not a penny of investment in the region aside from the sportswashing vehicle (once a proud football club like ours) will have been made either.
 
Lucky1985 said:
I’m honestly at a point now where’s I don’t think I want us to get promoted.

We won’t ever break into the top 6 unless there are systemic changes in the football league system, and so I’m enjoying being one of the bigger fish in the pond that is the championship this season where we don’t desperately need to win and losing doesn’t ruin my weekend
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In and around the play offs. Winning more than half our games and having fun. Rather than watching half the league stuff us while we try and hang in for a draw. Or even worse, watch 1/4 of the league stick 4+ goals past us easily.

Being in the PL is shit
 
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