Put a flat earthier into space

[Nukehasslefan]

You see, I'm just reading that as waffle. I asked for details.

"A deeper perspective rather than a face-value offering" is suggesting you know more than the rest of us, and that there is no such thing as pull, but apart from hinting you have this secret knowledge, you don't have anything to back that up do you?

You decide whatever you wish.

 

[DaveH]

Christopher Hitchens summed it up neatly when he said "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence."

I like that, so true. And in this context you could change that to be "What evidence is dismissed without just reason, may not be dismissed".

Essentially the accepted reality is constantly dismissed by conspiracy theorists without any details about why. It is usually one or all of: It doesn't meet my personal expectations of the world, it doesn't go along with what I think is true, I don't understand that and want a bit of attention. It is then replaced with an alternate reality which is not put under the same scrutiny they put reality under and then they preach about their enlightenment of this new world.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

And you're more than entitled to go with what you said above. I accept that, so now you have a choice whether to understand what I'm offering as being no relevance or proof to you and just use it as a thought process, or totally overlook anything I say and concentrate on those who offer you something.

Either way, I'm absolutely fine with it.

The words of a man who has lost all faith in his entirely fabricated theory of everything and no longer wants to discuss it with anyone who knows what a pile of nonsense it really is.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

The words of a man who has lost all faith in his entirely fabricated theory of everything and no longer wants to discuss it with anyone who knows what a pile of nonsense it really is.

Everything I've said is firmly intact for me.
As I mentioned to a few others above, you take from it whatever you will and I'm fine with whatever.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Everything I've said is firmly intact for me.
As I mentioned to a few others above, you take from it whatever you will and I'm fine with whatever.

Your only "evidence" is your claim that we have shown none. Your only defence is your refusal to look at and engage with what has been shown.

 

[DaveH]

Everything I've said is firmly intact for me.
As I mentioned to a few others above, you take from it whatever you will and I'm fine with whatever.

How do you feel about it deep down? You have dismissed the standard model of just about everything related to maths and science because you seem to struggle to understand that, and have waved it away as no proof.

Now you have your own reality but you have no proof in that either. Do you feel comfortable with believing in something you know that only you think, that you know you created and you know you can't prove?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Your only "evidence" is your claim that we have shown none. Your only defence is your refusal to look at and engage with what has been shown.

As I said above and I'll repeat for the same offering.

How do you feel about it deep down? You have dismissed the standard model of just about everything related to maths and science because you seem to struggle to understand that, and have waved it away as no proof.

What standard model?
Do you mean the accepted global model with all the trimmings?
If so then yes I've dismissed it and for good reason which I've offered many of them regardless of whether you accept them or dismiss them or acknowledge them being said.

Now you have your own reality but you have no proof in that either.

I have my own opinions and musings.
To offer proof for musings would be difficult, don't you think?
But you offer supposed proof for acceptance of stories told and yet can not provide anything nailed on.
See how this works?

Do you feel comfortable with believing in something you know that only you think, that you know you created and you know you can't prove?

I feel absolutely comfortable in my thought process for my own take on what I think Earth may be and I'm absolutely more than comfortable with my belief Earth is not a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings that are added into that.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

As I said above and I'll repeat for the same offering.

Confirming what I said. Closing in on 700 pages and still not one scrap of evidence for your dome or your Earth-shape.Nor has there been any sort of evidence to suggest that the global model is wrong.

 

[fyl2u]

As I said above and I'll repeat for the same offering.

What standard model?
Do you mean the accepted global model with all the trimmings?
If so then yes I've dismissed it and for good reason which I've offered many of them regardless of whether you accept them or dismiss them or acknowledge them being said.

I have my own opinions and musings.
To offer proof for musings would be difficult, don't you think?
But you offer supposed proof for acceptance of stories told and yet can not provide anything nailed on.
See how this works?

I feel absolutely comfortable in my thought process for my own take on what I think Earth may be and I'm absolutely more than comfortable with my belief Earth is not a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings that are added into that.

This is the answer to your post.

 

[DaveH]

As I said above and I'll repeat for the same offering.

What standard model?
Do you mean the accepted global model with all the trimmings?
If so then yes I've dismissed it and for good reason which I've offered many of them regardless of whether you accept them or dismiss them or acknowledge them being said.

I have my own opinions and musings.
To offer proof for musings would be difficult, don't you think?
But you offer supposed proof for acceptance of stories told and yet can not provide anything nailed on.
See how this works?

I feel absolutely comfortable in my thought process for my own take on what I think Earth may be and I'm absolutely more than comfortable with my belief Earth is not a spinning globe in a space vacuum and all the trimmings that are added into that.

Fair enough and I think that demonstrates why these discussions go on for so long.

A unwavering belief without proof is a religion. In your case it is not about some all powerful deity, it is about a super-complex projector under and ice dome. There is no satan, but there is THEM, the millions you feel are telling you lies. You can't fight religion with facts and logic, it is a deep emotional thing.

I think we can all respect that and the fact you are consistent about it over the years. It is wrong to mock a large group of people who share an imaginary friend, so it is logical that is also wrong to mock an single person about their imaginary universe.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Fair enough and I think that demonstrates why these discussions go on for so long.

A unwavering belief without proof is a religion.

It could well be and it goes for your side also, so it offers no further inroads to the actual proof.

In your case it is not about some all powerful deity, it is about a super-complex projector under and ice dome.

Nothing super complex about it anywhere near what we're told the sun is in a space vacuum at the size and distance they tell us we should accept as truth.

There is no satan, but there is THEM, the millions you feel are telling you lies.

Or maybe millions are mistaken and only a small percentage are offering disinformation.

You can't fight religion with facts and logic, it is a deep emotional thing.

You actually can but those who have faith in it can argue their part.
There are plenty out there that follow a religious belief.

I think we can all respect that and the fact you are consistent about it over the years.

I'll stay consistent until I'm shown otherwise or I find additions to my thoughts.
You are consistent with your globe following and I respect that as I do with anyone else following it.
I still think it's nonsense but that does not mean I think anyone who follows it is a liar or naive. I just think they're mistaken in their beliefs just as many think I'm mistaken in mine, or even nuts and whatnot.

It's all about opinions.

It is wrong to mock a large group of people who share an imaginary friend, so it is logical that is also wrong to mock an single person about their imaginary universe.

It's wrong to do a lot of things but it happens with regularity.

 

[legend7]

It could well be and it goes for your side also, so it offers no further inroads to the actual proof.

Nothing super complex about it anywhere near what we're told the sun is in a space vacuum at the size and distance they tell us we should accept as truth.


Or maybe millions are mistaken and only a small percentage are offering disinformation.

You actually can but those who have faith in it can argue their part.
There are plenty out there that follow a religious belief.

I'll stay consistent until I'm shown otherwise or I find additions to my thoughts.
You are consistent with your globe following and I respect that as I do with anyone else following it.
I still think it's nonsense but that does not mean I think anyone who follows it is a liar or naive. I just think they're mistaken in their beliefs just as many think I'm mistaken in mine, or even nuts and whatnot.

It's all about opinions.

It's wrong to do a lot of things but it happens with regularity.

What about the superfluid experiments you clearly said you had done

 

[Nukehasslefan]

What about the superfluid experiments you clearly said you had done

Try again.

 

[Nobby]

Try again.

Or the water level experiments you have said you have done?

 

[legend7]

Try again.

Well the evidence is on here and you've been shown it.
Liar

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Well the evidence is on here and you've been shown it.
Liar

Not at all but you carry on for as long as you wish to and I'm absolutely fine with it.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Asking for proof works both ways and if none can be accepted then the debate rolls on.

Go on then, tell us what would constitute proof? What could any of us offer that you'd be prepared to even look at and think about?

 

[Pink Panther]

Go on then, tell us what would constitute proof? What could any of us offer that you'd be prepared to even look at and think about?

He is under the assumption that if proof isn't read or understood, it no longer remains as proof.

 

[Hend79]

Not at all but you carry on for as long as you wish to and I'm absolutely fine with it.

Proof please? The onus is on you as your theory is against all of the evidence that points towards a globe.

 

[BigPete]

No response to my train diagram either