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NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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Poacher said:
It exists, it’s just severely tarnished. I just hope it’s worth it
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They don't see it as tarnished. But effectively Saudi can do whatever they please.

We have already had the warm weather training and players dancing with swords, the 3rd kit which miraculously looks like the national kit and a random Saudi appearing in the Directors box away at Brighton. This is just for starters. I don't want to conjecture what the will do next but they are not throwing millions at this for fun.
 

That Pearson is something else mind. 2 weeks ago he did the Newcastle pride March for likes and RTs; to support Newcastle gay community, his only comment was “our owners have a controversial background”, a 5 sec line in a 12 min video.

Yesterday he does an interview behind a Saudi flag with a couple of Saudis visitors who are “new mags”. Pearson then bangs on about how he can’t wait to visit SA for a pre season tour.
Absolutely shameless. They really couldn’t care less where the money is coming from.

I’m in my 50s and the level of repulsion I have for that lot has never been greater.
 
I play golf with a mag who is outraged at the LIV golfers but quite comfortable with NUFC being bought out by the murdeters of hundreds and thousands of children and the beheading of a journalist - they are mental man. The golfers as well you get some of them who have signed up and just keep their counsel and others who are shouting from the rooftops about how great they are for doing it and how the Saudis are changing etc. Nufc fans are Patrick Reed.
 
Big Twisty said:
I’m in my 50s and the level of repulsion I have for that lot has never been greater.
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My dad is 70 next year. Brought up as a Sunderland fan (purely because he was brought up in County Durham), but in the era of "I want all Northeast clubs to do well". He thought nothing of taking me to Hartlepool, Newcastle, Darlington or Boro if Sunderland were away and we had nothing better to do. If I'd have said I wanted to support any of those clubs (provided I went to the matches!) that would be fine. But I was never supporting Liverpool or Chelsea. No way.

I have never heard him have a dig at Newcastle. Till the images of the Saudi flags and tea towels appeared when they were taken over. Celebrating a notorious and dubious foreign state.... I'm the colours of a proud Northeast team did it.

He actually wants them to be go down now.

Which for all my life is something he has never said about any Northeast club
 
Mills and Boon said:
So first our club doesn't exist anymore, and now our history has been wiped out?

I don't think you'll find many that hold similar beliefs outside of a handful of people on here
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I mean when a working class club sells it’s soul to a tory sympathisers and known state of terrorists they kind of deserve to lose everything it stands for. I bet you hate the working class too
 
TheRey said:
What the fuck is that article :lol:
Also, how the fuck are we only 12th? All my Palace mates are fat fucks:lol:
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The whole country is getting fatter and fatter at an alarming rate.

Reflected in the stands, watching the PL games over the weekend and when it zooms in to 15/20 person sections of the crowd, at least 10 people seem to be considerably overweight.

Not even a north/north east issue any more.



Mags do seem to have been, on average, fatter forever mind.
 
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At Barnsley have a moral compass
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Because Barnsley fans are supporting an honest old fashioned club.

Newcastle fans are success whores who will sell anything they can in the hope that they'll be rich and successful. Despite the fact that the success of Newcastle United will do nothing for them personally anyway
 
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Good but long thread on why the scum are shopping in the bargain basement


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Aye, it's going to be a shock when the money runs out as they only have so much wiggle room before it will catch up. I don't think they'll increase the revenue enough to sustain the 'big' spending and they can only fiddle so much with new sponsor deals etc.

By the looks of things they're also trying to get players without paying the fees up front and inserting a few clauses which will reduce initial fees of course. If success comes in any way then the extra revenue will come to pay those clauses. Players they've signed now will no doubt be sold if their value increases as they try to step up the ladder of player quality and buy cheap again etc. It's a good system to have and it did Leicester well for a few seasons and sold Maguire, Mahrez but now they're struggling, hence why they need to sell before they buy.

Leicester spent less than £15 on Maguire, Mahrez, Drinkwater and Chillwell and got over £200m in fees for them. That along with the increase in revenue this has enabled them to buy numerous £20-£40m players and pay higher wages but they're at a selling point now and need to shift players (if they want new players).

Ndidi is another player whose gone up from £15m to around £50m but can they 'afford' to sell him, along with Maddison who was £20m and possibly £50-60m? They've probably got around 6 players who can command more than £30m as the other 4 are Tielmans, Soyuncu, Fofana and Barnes. Though they paid £90m for the first 3 of those 4 and they're worth around £120m. Barnes is the only player to come through U21s and he's worth around £30m but Pereze has dropped around £20m in value so they've not made the huge transfer profits like before, plus they haven't sold anyone decent since Chilwell. All these numbers are transfermarkt so not exact of course. Big teams can afford to buy a player and take a hit on him like Pogba at Man Utd.

I think the gap between the revenue of the big 6 and the also rans is just too big to bridge now. Even Arsenal still get more than £200m revenue to NUFC's £170m and the gap will probably get bigger now there's been a full season of fans back in the grounds. Leicester and Everton have tried playing catch up and they're now out of funds and will possibly suffer in the league due to the lack of considerable new investment and lack of additional European revenue.

Like I've said many times before, it ain't the 90's yet some of the Mags think it is. The financial playing field hasn't been leveled off a little like it was back then with the new Sky TV money injection for all clubs. Back then it was more a UK brand but now it's a huge global brand. There's millions of supporters globally of the big clubs that they can generate cash from, be it via merchandise, advertising, sponsorship etc. You could say the top teams now have the best super cars and can maintain, repair, service them if need be due to the revenue they get. A few other clubs can buy a decent super car but it's unlikely they will have the funds to maintain it and after a while it will grind to a halt just like Everton and Leicester have.

Football of old is long gone and it's shite as the also rans struggle to break into the big 6 season upon season. Aye some say Leicester did it and aye they did in a freak season. However look at them now financially as they simply can't keep up the pace and their wage bill was more than their revenue. The fact that since 2004/05 the only non big 6 teams to get into Champions League was Leicester in that freak season just shows the extra revenue from the CL goes to 4 of the big 6 each season, along with Europa League in many other seasons. Aye one team may eventually break into the top 4 again but it's very unlikely they'll do it consistently enough to sustain the level of spending required to stay there, so it's a bit of a catch 22.

To cut a long post short, the Mags will no doubt enjoy the initial spending chasing success but in time it will catch up with them. That's if the European Super League doesn't raise its head again as that could change a lot of things.
 
Sporty said:
Aye, it's going to be a shock when the money runs out as they only have so much wiggle room before it will catch up. I don't think they'll increase the revenue enough to sustain the 'big' spending and they can only fiddle so much with new sponsor deals etc.

By the looks of things they're also trying to get players without paying the fees up front and inserting a few clauses which will reduce initial fees of course. If success comes in any way then the extra revenue will come to pay those clauses. Players they've signed now will no doubt be sold if their value increases as they try to step up the ladder of player quality and buy cheap again etc. It's a good system to have and it did Leicester well for a few seasons and sold Maguire, Mahrez but now they're struggling, hence why they need to sell before they buy.

Leicester spent less than £15 on Maguire, Mahrez, Drinkwater and Chillwell and got over £200m in fees for them. That along with the increase in revenue this has enabled them to buy numerous £20-£40m players and pay higher wages but they're at a selling point now and need to shift players (if they want new players).

Ndidi is another player whose gone up from £15m to around £50m but can they 'afford' to sell him, along with Maddison who was £20m and possibly £50-60m? They've probably got around 6 players who can command more than £30m as the other 4 are Tielmans, Soyuncu, Fofana and Barnes. Though they paid £90m for the first 3 of those 4 and they're worth around £120m. Barnes is the only player to come through U21s and he's worth around £30m but Pereze has dropped around £20m in value so they've not made the huge transfer profits like before, plus they haven't sold anyone decent since Chilwell. All these numbers are transfermarkt so not exact of course. Big teams can afford to buy a player and take a hit on him like Pogba at Man Utd.

I think the gap between the revenue of the big 6 and the also rans is just too big to bridge now. Even Arsenal still get more than £200m revenue to NUFC's £170m and the gap will probably get bigger now there's been a full season of fans back in the grounds. Leicester and Everton have tried playing catch up and they're now out of funds and will possibly suffer in the league due to the lack of considerable new investment and lack of additional European revenue.

Like I've said many times before, it ain't the 90's yet some of the Mags think it is. The financial playing field hasn't been leveled off a little like it was back then with the new Sky TV money injection for all clubs. Back then it was more a UK brand but now it's a huge global brand. There's millions of supporters globally of the big clubs that they can generate cash from, be it via merchandise, advertising, sponsorship etc. You could say the top teams now have the best super cars and can maintain, repair, service them if need be due to the revenue they get. A few other clubs can buy a decent super car but it's unlikely they will have the funds to maintain it and after a while it will grind to a halt just like Everton and Leicester have.

Football of old is long gone and it's shite as the also rans struggle to break into the big 6 season upon season. Aye some say Leicester did it and aye they did in a freak season. However look at them now financially as they simply can't keep up the pace and their wage bill was more than their revenue. The fact that since 2004/05 the only non big 6 teams to get into Champions League was Leicester in that freak season just shows the extra revenue from the CL goes to 4 of the big 6 each season, along with Europa League in many other seasons. Aye one team may eventually break into the top 4 again but it's very unlikely they'll do it consistently enough to sustain the level of spending required to stay there, so it's a bit of a catch 22.

To cut a long post short, the Mags will no doubt enjoy the initial spending chasing success but in time it will catch up with them. That's if the European Super League doesn't raise its head again as that could change a lot of things.
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"Why can't clubs just spend what they want?" - Discuss.

Seen a few similar messages from mag fans obviously frustrated that they can't spend billions.
 
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Feinstein is a Jewish South African who opposed apartheid when it could still be dangerous to do so.

He served in Mandela’s first government and now campaigns against the Arms Trade. He has written books on the subject, and consequently is very knowledgeable on the oppression and crimes carried out by the Saudi government. Good to see him standing up against Newcastle United and their owners.
 
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