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The Safety of Fans in the North Stand


I have never seen anything as sad and pathetic as this on youtube. Someone has gone out of their way to make this for their biggest rivals. Its beyond embarrassing and yet their will be some Cov fans who actually lap it up like serious derby rivalry. Apologies if its already been linked on here.
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Chewit said:
The policy is not to make fans sit in their allocated seats. It’s to hard to manage.
So they sit anywhere, which means all the dickheads can hide with each other without being called out.
The police should be in there making fans sit in their allocated seat and no standing in aisles or throw them out.
£10 an hour stewards stand no chance


He’s throwing the lowest employees in the process under the bus.
Accountability Steve accountability, you have tried to do it on the cheap and it’s blown up in your face. At least have the courage to admit it.
You and your management cannot hide behind blaming other people and not putting enough resources in place .
We are not a group of thicko’s who will accept BS. Many on here have and do hold more senior positions than you in organisations and know how it works.
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The Police have no powers to do that. The stewards have to enforce ground rules, Police, the law, if they are actually in the ground of course.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
Tbf if south standers moved to North and we kept the upper tier open and had home fans in that entire stand it would be much better.

Seems daft splitting that end when you could have it all home fans. Just have one end of the ground away fans and the other end home fans. It's harder to join in singing when half the fans are at each end as sound there doesn't travel well and by the time it doe's its way behind so everyone is out of time so it barely happens now.

That being said I can barely remember it before the away fans got moved there and I sat SW at the time.
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Make the upper tier safe standing behind the goal in the North Stand.
 
robbied1 said:
Probably been said, but I'm not reading 43 pages, bit apparently the bottle thrower and the flare thrower were dealt with instantly. For the record in my opinion the away fans should never be up there, only way to solve it
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Hopefully mate but when I spoke to the club yesterday afternoon, no one had been lifted
 
Roker Scoreboard said:
I'd still look to move them back to where they were in the South Stand, as was first intended when the stadium opened. Use the SE corner for fans moved across and you'd have a proper football atmosphere down that end with away next to home support.
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The South East corner is pretty much sold out with season tickets, Infact all the corners are because of the concessions. Moving people will piss them off. Start moving people and charging them more money and they'll not bother coming back.
 
HeroHurley said:
Whilst I agree, we shouldn't be letting the stewards off the hook. I understand from off here that Coventry were allowed to bring their own, presumably to cut our own costs.

Firstly, surely all stewards have to hold an SIA badge or something equivalent and it's not ust a bunch of their own ST holders who are promising to self police?

Secondly, if we are allowing clubs to bring their own stewards to cut our own costs, how much are they willing to save before they end uo saying fuck that, OUR supporters safety is the priority?

Why aren't coppers already up there? Are we not willing to pay extra for Northumbria's not so finest to be placed up there? Are they supposes to be up there and just not arsed?
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I don’t know about the SIA badge thing. Would be interesting to know.
Everything else you mention is about putting money before safety
 
pixie345 said:
I have never seen anything as sad and pathetic as this on youtube. Someone has gone out of their way to make this for their biggest rivals. Its beyond embarrassing and yet their will be some Cov fans who actually lap it up like serious derby rivalry. Apologies if its already been linked on here.
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He does loads I think, I actually found it quite catchy. :lol:
 
robbied1 said:
Just what I read on the cov forum and pusb on twitter rubber, their fans were not happy at all woth the lad who through the bottle
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That's fair enough tbh. As I said, I couldn't give a shite about smoke bombs, personally- they're not ideal but a glass bottle from that height can quite easily prove lethal.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
That's fair enough tbh. As I said, I couldn't give a shite about smoke bombs, personally- they're not ideal but a glass bottle from that height can quite easily prove lethal.
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The smoke bomb yesterday landed in the middle of families mate. A family behind us left because the bairns were terrified.

You’re right that a bottle is far more dangerous but we shouldn’t make light of this ridiculous nonsense of chucking smoke bombs. If one lands in a bairns hood for example, it’s not a pleasant experience for them - especially if they have asthma
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Being honest mate, I don’t think the club (or certainly those higher up) are doing a thing about it. I dare say a load of us have sent emails/letters in the last 24 hours but I fully expect radio silence from them as they will hope it will go away

For whatever reason, they seem terrified to deal with the situation. As I posted last night, serious questions also have to be asked about why we even give Coventry the additional 500 tickets. Does the additional £15k revenue mean so much to us?

The one thing that is for certain is; unless the club do something, a fan will be seriously hurt in the north stand lower. What they fail to grasp is, it could easily be a “nice” club that causes the incident as it just takes one arseholes to chuck something
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I think you sum it up nicely.
It’s as if they don’t understand their own exposure should someone be killed when the risk was known and the mitigation inadequate. A safety certificate does not excuse them from their duty of care.
It is all about money, there is clearly a culture of avoid cost at all cost. That’s fine but it’s a dangerous thing and unusual in this day and age when corporations are generally safety first profit second.
If they think it’s expensive fixing this just wait until they see the cost if something goes seriously wrong.
It smacks of the complacency of 70/ 80’s football clubs herding fans like cattle behind barriers so long as they got the ever diminishing revenue but without thought for the consequences.
Wearside Wanderer II said:
Interesting from the last Rawa minutes Davison didn’t want to install netting.

Looks like a reet bawbag now
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No one wants to install netting but unless they come up with some other solution then they will have to. You can’t not do everything you reasonably can to remove the risk. The aesthetics have to come second .
 
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tunstallhill said:
i totally agree that a bottle being thrown from 100 foot above is the most dangerous occurrence here. i think that that hazard can be dealt with, without moving the away fans. i think it makes more sense to deal with it as it is now, with the away fans up there, than deal with it by moving the away fans. not sure how else i can explain myself. i'm not suggesting just doing nothing, i've given about 5 or 6 suggestions already of things i think would be much more effective than simply moving the away fans
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We are having the debate which the club should be having. On the basis of no action to date you have to assume they have not. They don’t care and it costs to much to resolve
Superkenwynejones said:
Put the fuckers in the west stand concourse above the directors I bet something would be done then
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darius said:
sorry mate, that makes no sense. Not relevant.
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At what point does someone break the law? When they refuse to follow instructions from the stewards. Let’s just get the right people in the right place to resolve issues
 
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Northumberland Rocks said:
Aye I can remember they called it out thats why Im loathe to label them with this scum.

I asked one of their mouthpieces @Astute if he was proud of their support - he hasnt replied.

Cheats and cowards. Cant think of better words to sum them up. Hopefully what goes around comes around.
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Mouthpiece?

Two people got caught throwing something and both got arrested. Hopefully they both get a long ban at least and a prison sentence if throwing anything dangerous.

A mate of mine (Sunderland supporter before you say anything) only saw a flare coming down. Don't know what the other item was. But yes we do have a few idiots just like you do. The vast majority of us are OK and had a good time mingling with your supporters. Just how it should be.
 
Astute said:
Mouthpiece?

Two people got caught throwing something and both got arrested. Hopefully they both get a long ban at least and a prison sentence if throwing anything dangerous.

A mate of mine (Sunderland supporter before you say anything) only saw a flare coming down. Don't know what the other item was. But yes we do have a few idiots just like you do. The vast majority of us are OK and had a good time mingling with your supporters. Just how it should be.
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There was 2 smoke bombs, 1 dart and 1 glass bottle thrown down just in my section of the north stand. Probably more further up and down the stand. Your fans are a disgrace and hopefully the club and the EFL take some strong action this time. Not holding my breath mind.
Father Jack Hackett said:
That's fair enough tbh. As I said, I couldn't give a shite about smoke bombs, personally- they're not ideal but a glass bottle from that height can quite easily prove lethal.
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I'm fairly sure that an aluminium smoke bomb canister would prove equally as lethal from that height tbh. I certainly wouldn't volunteer to test it with my skull to find out...
 
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