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NUFC/Sportswashing - Summer 2022

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Hold on. Is the best winger in the world not wanting to be part of the project now?

I dont understand the bit below, aren't they the richest team in the world?
On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer.
 
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HeaderDownBrown said:
From todays Chronicle.....

'PSG won the race for Hugo Ekitike earlier this month but smaller clubs such as Southampton and West Ham are also stealing a march on the Magpies and their new-found wealth - for a number of reasons.'

West Ham 😂 Who do they think they are man?
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If there’s one team in English football who’s record most closely matches the mags over the last 60+ years it’s Southampton.

Both clubs are the only side in a fairly big city outside London. There’s no reason at all why the mags should automatically beat them to anything, but their fans will never, ever accept this.

This mentality is a massive problem for every manager they have, and it’s why we can be sure that mags claiming they’d “be happy with 10th” are talking nonsense.

A tenth placed finish means a load of tight games that go either way against sides like Southampton, and the mags just won’t stand for that, even though they’ve had 60 years to get used to it.

Pardew would often eek a win out of those games and they’d still tear into him afterwards for failing to annihilate the opposition for 90 minutes. It’s just the way the fans are - meeting their expectations is basically impossible. They will go after Howe soon enough.
 
Mowgli said:
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Hold on. Is the best winger in the world not wanting to be part of the project now?

I dont understand the bit below, aren't they the richest team in the world?
On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer.
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I wonder if it's all the goals he doesn't score and chances he doesn't create that clubs are impressed by.
 
Mowgli said:
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Hold on. Is the best winger in the world not wanting to be part of the project now?

I dont understand the bit below, aren't they the richest team in the world?
On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer.
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He’s not good enough for spurs or Chelsea, imo.
 
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Hold on. Is the best winger in the world not wanting to be part of the project now?

I dont understand the bit below, aren't they the richest team in the world?
On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer.
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They’re a selling club 😉
 
Skellington said:
If there’s one team in English football who’s record most closely matches the mags over the last 60+ years it’s Southampton.

Both clubs are the only side in a fairly big city outside London. There’s no reason at all why the mags should automatically beat them to anything, but their fans will never, ever accept this.

This mentality is a massive problem for every manager they have, and it’s why we can be sure that mags claiming they’d “be happy with 10th” are talking nonsense.

A tenth placed finish means a load of tight games that go either way against sides like Southampton, and the mags just won’t stand for that, even though they’ve had 60 years to get used to it.

Pardew would often eek a win out of those games and they’d still tear into him afterwards for failing to annihilate the opposition for 90 minutes. It’s just the way the fans are - meeting their expectations is basically impossible. They will go after Howe soon enough.
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Aye, even mentioning Southampton is an insult as well, at least they've won something since TV went to colour.
 
rocky said:
A load of them won't admit it but they'll be disappointed they haven't signed a big name player for big money yet.
I wonder when they'll start thinking this take over isn't exactly what they thought it would be.
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If he was sold, I guarantee it would be the right decision and what they've always wanted etc and he was never that good anyway.
 
Wansbeck Viking said:
He’s not good enough for spurs or Chelsea, imo.
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I think he’s better than most on here seem to think, but I still can’t see him at a top 6 club.

The mags seem desperate to flog him to one of those sides - they give a story about him to our local press every week atm - but I really can’t see it happening. Howe seems to struggle managing him as well, and he can’t be happy with his treatment recently - no one would be.

This is amusing:

“On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer. Newcastle have been priced out of moves for both Moussa Diaby and Alexander Isak in the last couple of weeks, but they would potentially be able to make a renewed push for both players if they were to cash in on Saint-Maximin”
 
Skellington said:
If there’s one team in English football who’s record most closely matches the mags over the last 60+ years it’s Southampton.

Both clubs are the only side in a fairly big city outside London. There’s no reason at all why the mags should automatically beat them to anything, but their fans will never, ever accept this.

This mentality is a massive problem for every manager they have, and it’s why we can be sure that mags claiming they’d “be happy with 10th” are talking nonsense.

A tenth placed finish means a load of tight games that go either way against sides like Southampton, and the mags just won’t stand for that, even though they’ve had 60 years to get used to it.

Pardew would often eek a win out of those games and they’d still tear into him afterwards for failing to annihilate the opposition for 90 minutes. It’s just the way the fans are - meeting their expectations is basically impossible. They will go after Howe soon enough.
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A few good seasons under Keegan then Robson has them utterly deluded. Those seasons were exceptions not the norm, they just can't accept that
 
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On the one hand, receiving a fee of around £40m for Saint-Maximin would transform the Magpies’ ability to make signings of their own this summer.
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Or alternatively

it will bring down the net spend to Ashley-esque levels
 
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Sporty said:
It's easy to look for negatives but I guess Mills & Boon is ignoring (well not ignoring, more like clueless to) the fact that the Premier League financial bubble has massively increased globally since Ashley took over. This is why the likes of Spurs and the other 5 have grown commercially so much since then, global audience growth. This was probably helped by the huge growth of social media globally allowing more people access to the Premier League bubble in whatever way. Even the tweet gives a clue about the big 6 being 'elite' as they were a big part of that global growth and part of the reason why the Global TV rights are now worth more than the domestic TV rights.

The fact NUFC are 9th in that 2017/18 list isn't that bad as where were they expecting to be? It was a season after their 2nd relegation yet Leicester who were below them had won the league a couple seasons earlier so had a lot of focus on them that season and after as they also has a season in CL. West Ham had been in the Europa League the 2 seasons prior to 2017/18 season and got to the Quarter Final in the 2nd season. From 2006/07 to 2016/17, Everton finished 4th x1, 5th x 3, 6th x 2, 7th x 3, 8th x 1 so 10 season chasing Europe and a few seasons in it. They were £4m behind West Ham but £6m ahead of Leicester and £9m ahead of the next team Stoke on £18m, so nearly 50% higher than them. So was it all that bad or was it actually not that bad given their position in relation to those around them and below them?

Comparing the commercial revenue in 2018 to 2007, which was after a few decent seasons of the final big spending is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. After the 6 seasons of European football starting 2001, the club was spent up and couldn't continue with that rate of previous spending chasing success and global exposure. the commercial growth didn't happen as they faded away into mid table obscurity and their last big name signing Michael Owen got hit by injury. The old owners still didn't too bad as they made a few million out of the club for themselves didn't they along with some questionable dealings?

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Aye there's negatives in the finances but there's also positives. It seems some mags wanted Ashley to maintain the ambition and spending of the previous owners ignoring the fact the club was sinking financially as they couldn't keep pace with the big clubs. Yet when you look at that commercial finance without the big 6, they were still near the best of the rest and in a mini group themselves with West Ham, Everton and eventually Leicester. Not bad considering that apart from that 5th season, they only finished as high as 10th and 1 season relegated and another in the Championship in the seasons prior.
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I'm ignoring or clueless to the very information I brought to the site to illustrate my point?!

What's really going on here? Is this place a wind up or what?
 
Squat said:
not saying that, its just that because he's on a free he gets massive wages. trippier cost 12m plus addons for 2.5 years. thats about 100k a week for his transfer fee alone plus wages of probably 100k a week as well. he's older and costing 200k a week you wont get back yet he's a bargain?
people see 200k a week and think its mad, yet pay 30m for a player for a 3 year contract and 100k a week you wont get back and noone bats an eyelid and its double the cost.
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That is fair. I think I did just that!
jlaws said:
I think it's a good deal for Forest. They know what they are getting in comparison to some unknown playing in France or Austria.

In comparison mags signed Thauvin in 2015 for 18.35m EUR....5 year deal so potentially cost at say 40k p/w = 10m. Played 13 games....and went on loan and eventually sold back for 11m EUR.

Loss = 7.35m EUR and likely 6 months @ 40k and 18 months @ 20k so 2m in wages.Just shy of 9m for 13 games.

If it wasn't for Marseille picking him mags would have paid out 28m quid on Thauvin.
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It will be a good deal if they stay up. Not so much if they don’t. They are rolling the dice. Norwich didn’t. Fulham did. Time will tell.
 
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