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Michael Martin who mentioned paedophilia and Sunderland fans several times per day for a few years? That Michael Martin?You must be logged on to see media items
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Michael Martin who mentioned paedophilia and Sunderland fans several times per day for a few years? That Michael Martin?You must be logged on to see media items
Both fans are hideously stuck in their bitterness to one anotherNo problem with their owners murdering children or marrying them but heaven forbid someone with a FTM flag. Fcking dckheads
I’ll change the record when your owners stop murdering children.And the record remains stuck.
That's fair enough, however, you'll be spinning that record for an awfully long time. More power to you though, their human rights abuses are horrific.I’ll change the record when your owners stop murdering children.
Are you a parody? This whole paragraph is the very definition of a saudi apologist.No I didn't. Go back and read what I did say.
I'll sum it up for you. As a Newcastle supporter, the Saudi funding is great for us in terms of improving the club. We will enjoy that, in the same way the the PSG and Man City fans are enjoying their ownership and where it's taken their clubs.
The human rights atrocities that Saudi Arabia commit are bad. I wish they'd pack it in and I condemn them. They're not being committed in support of my club though, and my club doesn't benefit from them in any way. If I stop supporting my club it will not force the Saudis to change their culture which has been set in its ways for quite a bit longer than they've owned our club. So not only do I not want to stop supporting Newcastle, it also wouldn't have any positive effect even if I did.
Can't make it any clearer than that for you, if you still can't wrap your head around it it's on you. Please stop trying to twist my posts into something they're not
Can you explain to me how I can be a Saudi apologist while condemning them?Are you a parody? This whole paragraph is the very definition of a saudi apologist.
Ok SimaThat's fair enough, however, you'll be spinning that record for an awfully long time. More power to you though, their human rights abuses are horrific.
Ha ha ha. You are funny. You cannot separate the saudi atrocities from your club, as your club is owned by the state that does them. You saying your owners are great cos they are benefitting your saudi franchise fc, is like me saying, I like Fred West, cos he is a canny plasterer, just forget about the other things he does. Do you block all bad things out in your life? just put your fingers in your ears and go 'ner ner ner ner '. Your ignoring their atrocities ,makes you an apologist. My moral compass would say to me 'nah, I cannot support a team owned by these people, I want no association with them'. I don't care if it affects them or not, not everything is done for that reason. You are morally vacuous.Can you explain to me how I can be a Saudi apologist while condemning them?
It's not like that at all.Ha ha ha. You are funny. You cannot separate the saudi atrocities from your club, as your club is owned by the state that does them. You saying your owners are great cos they are benefitting your saudi franchise fc, is like me saying, I like Fred West, cos he is a canny plasterer, just forget about the other things he does. Do you block all bad things out in your life? just put your fingers in your ears and go 'ner ner ner ner '. Your ignoring their atrocities ,makes you an apologist. My moral compass would say to me 'nah, I cannot support a team owned by these people, I want no association with them'. I don't care if it affects them or not, not everything is done for that reason. You are morally vacuous.
Cheers. As i said higher up I'd not seen those pollsHere’s 2 where he gets 11% in one 8% In another.
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You can say what you want. It makes you a saudi apologist though. Oooh forget about those bad things they do, we have just signed Chris Wood.Why not?
Why can't I think they're doing a good job with my club but also condemn their human rights record?
Why not?
Why can't I think they're doing a good job with my club but also condemn their human rights record?
Recognizing and condemning their human rights violations can't possibly make me an apologist. Surely you can understand that?You can say what you want. It makes you a saudi apologist though. Oooh forget about those bad things they do, we have just signed Chris Wood.
It's still there. And it's thrivingBecause you havent got a club anymore. Its gone![]()
Do you? You actually protest against them at the matches?The human rights atrocities that Saudi Arabia commit are bad. I wish they'd pack it in and I condemn them.
They are being committed in support of your club. Their atrocities are the only reason they've bought you. There'd be no need for sportswashing if they weren't bombing kids. Newcastle supporters are in a far better position than most people in the world to make a difference or at least try to get a message across.They're not being committed in support of my club though, and my club doesn't benefit from them in any way. If I stop supporting my club it will not force the Saudis to change their culture which has been set in its ways for quite a bit longer than they've owned our club. So not only do I not want to stop supporting Newcastle, it also wouldn't have any positive effect even if I did.
Recognizing and condemning their human rights violations can't possibly make me an apologist. Surely you can understand that?
It's still there. And it's thriving
He is thick as pigshit man. Says stopping going wouldn't hurt them( doesn't realise if everyone stopped going it would absolutely destroy their already hideous image). Apologist number 1 this fellaDo you? You actually protest against them at the matches?
They are being committed in support of your club. Their atrocities are the only reason they've bought you. There'd be no need for sportswashing if they weren't bombing kids. Newcastle supporters are in a far better position than most people in the world to make a difference or at least try to get a message across.
The only message I see from 99% is that murdering kids is just fine as long as there's a possibility of entertainment to be had out of it.