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Nick Maddinson


All the best to him, the good lord knows we’re due a bit of success on the field.

If he’s a failure it’ll all be James Franklin’s fault. If he succeeds it’ll be down to someone else.
To be fair, and I do try to be fair,recruitment is probably down to North, otherwise what the f#ck is he paid for. Coaching and team selection is Franklin's remit.
 
To be fair, and I do try to be fair,recruitment is probably down to North, otherwise what the f#ck is he paid for. Coaching and team selection is Franklin's remit.

Oh I’m well aware of that, in fairness.

But lets see whether he’s a success or not and who gets the blame if he isn’t ;)

It’s only about a fortnight since folk were whinging like bitches about us signing Ravindra for one game instead of throwing a young’un in. They quickly fell silent…
 
Oh I’m well aware of that, in fairness.

But lets see whether he’s a success or not and who gets the blame if he isn’t ;)

It’s only about a fortnight since folk were whinging like bitches about us signing Ravindra for one game instead of throwing a young’un in. They quickly fell silent…
Well we still didn't win so it's probably still reasonable to question his signing. With Crawshaw injured we probably don't have anyone other than Bushnell to step up. The salient question remains,why haven't we any youngsters coming through after 4 years of Franklin?
 
Well we still didn't win so it's probably still reasonable to question his signing.

I really hope that’s satire :lol:

The salient question remains,why haven't we any youngsters coming through after 4 years of Franklin?

Ha’way Parky, I’ve literally just explained in a fairly detailed manner why that is likely to be the case. If you’re just going to flagrantly ignore what I’m saying (and what you’re quoting) what’s the point of continuing here?

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It is a shocking indictment, but that is more John Windows’ remit, is it not? I mentioned elsewhere, the wonders that man has worked at this club means he’s got plenty left in the bank - but perhaps it’s also a nod to why we aren’t just throwing all these kids in willy nilly….? Could it be that (as I alluded to) they aren’t ready?

The financial constraints placed on the club by FTECB hit all aspects of the club and it was highlighted at the time that the academy would have to be quite drastically cut to accommodate this.

Many will remember that on top of the financial and personnel cuts, the club pulled the Academy XI out of the NEPL.

None of those things were decided or acted upon by James Franklin.

I can’t quite believe that I seem to be the only one putting two and two together on all of those factors. It’s no surprise whatsoever that we’ve had a bit of a drought on the youth development/progression in the 5 years after those cuts.

It’s hardly rocket surgery.
 
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Well we still didn't win so it's probably still reasonable to question his signing. With Crawshaw injured we probably don't have anyone other than Bushnell to step up. The salient question remains,why haven't we any youngsters coming through after 4 years of Franklin?

I really hope that’s satire :lol:



Ha’way Parky, I’ve literally just explained in a fairly detailed manner why that is likely to be the case. If you’re just going to flagrantly ignore what I’m saying (and what you’re quoting) what’s the point of continuing here?

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Durham’s T20 Campaign
If you wish to interpret it as satire feel free to do so the fact is we didn't win. If you can explain to me why we are no longer producing Academy products I'd welcome your input. You certainly appear to have been consistently ignoring the fact. So be forthcoming on this issue and we can finally put this rhetoric to bed-which academy players have come through during Franklin's tenure?
 
If you wish to interpret it as satire feel free to do so the fact is we didn't win. If you can explain to me why we are no longer producing Academy products I'd welcome your input. You certainly appear to have been consistently ignoring the fact. So be forthcoming on this issue and we can finally put this rhetoric to bed-which academy players have come through during Franklin's tenure?

Mate, you’ve ignored my ‘input’ on this issue 3 (THREE) times now.

I’m not really sure how much more I can do to make you see my fairly detailed explanation as to why.

But here it is again for the FOURTH time:

It is a shocking indictment, but that is more John Windows’ remit, is it not? I mentioned elsewhere, the wonders that man has worked at this club means he’s got plenty left in the bank - but perhaps it’s also a nod to why we aren’t just throwing all these kids in willy nilly….? Could it be that (as I alluded to) they aren’t ready?

The financial constraints placed on the club by FTECB hit all aspects of the club and it was highlighted at the time that the academy would have to be quite drastically cut to accommodate this.

Many will remember that on top of the financial and personnel cuts, the club pulled the Academy XI out of the NEPL.

None of those things were decided or acted upon by James Franklin.

I can’t quite believe that I seem to be the only one putting two and two together on all of those factors. It’s no surprise whatsoever that we’ve had a bit of a drought on the youth development/progression in the 5 years after those cuts.

It’s hardly rocket surgery.
 
Mate, you’ve ignored my ‘input’ on this issue 3 (THREE) times now.

I’m not really sure how much more I can do to make you see my fairly detailed explanation as to why.

But here it is again for the FOURTH time:

It is a shocking indictment, but that is more John Windows’ remit, is it not? I mentioned elsewhere, the wonders that man has worked at this club means he’s got plenty left in the bank - but perhaps it’s also a nod to why we aren’t just throwing all these kids in willy nilly….? Could it be that (as I alluded to) they aren’t ready?

The financial constraints placed on the club by FTECB hit all aspects of the club and it was highlighted at the time that the academy would have to be quite drastically cut to accommodate this.

Many will remember that on top of the financial and personnel cuts, the club pulled the Academy XI out of the NEPL.

None of those things were decided or acted upon by James Franklin.

I can’t quite believe that I seem to be the only one putting two and two together on all of those factors. It’s no surprise whatsoever that we’ve had a bit of a drought on the youth development/progression in the 5 years after those cuts.

It’s hardly rocket surgery.
As I've posted on another thread it is my understanding that academy funding is ringfenced and would not be impacted by the sanctions. Not for the first time we'll agree to disagree.
 
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As I've posted on another thread it is my understanding that academy funding is ringfenced and would not be impacted by the sanctions.

Any proof of this?

I genuinely don’t know, you could be right, but even if we work on the assumption you are, whilst academy funding may be ringfenced, senior funding is not, which includes the recruitment, the retaining and the paying of players. Nor is the funding for coaches. All factors which have a MASSIVE impact on the development of youth and of the ability to keep and promote that youth.

Look at players like Stoneman and Jennings and consider how many chances they had and how long they were allowed to develop. My argument would be that we simply do not have the resources to be as patient as that anymore. Unfortunately.

Just about everyone on this forum has mentioned how thin our playing resources are currently. Have a serious think about why that is? Could it be perhaps down to money?

This years Durham yearbook has only 5 players termed as ‘rookie players’, which translates to me as players who aren’t on a senior deal but who the club considers closest to becoming senior staff. Two of those have already been introduced and one has suffered a long term injury.

The Academy page lists only 13 players.

So of the players not on senior contracts and not playing with the junior year groups, we’ve only got 18 lads (not including Senior lads who will inevitably drop in and out) to choose from when trying to fulfill a Second XI season programme.

Brandon Seconds have more response each week from their availability messages.

So please consider all of the above before getting stuck into the Academy and the ‘lack of development’.

Consider too who the bloke responsible for development is (John Windows). In my view, that bloke should be given the freedom of the County of Durham for what he’s done for cricket and cricketers in this region. I’m fairly certain Brendan McCullum would agree, too.
 
John Windows has done an excellent job for 20 years at least. A disciple of Geoff Cook.
Main difficulty is none of us have much idea of the true picture at Durham such is their lack of communication with members.
Bostock is quoted as financial position is robust yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.
I haven't got a clue about The true financial picture at Durham. Bostock has been quoted that the financial position is healthy,on target to be debt free by 2024. Very few counties could claim that yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.
 
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John Windows has done an excellent job for 20 years at least. A disciple of Geoff Cook.
Main difficulty is none of us have much idea of the true picture at Durham such is their lack of communication with members.
Bostock is quoted as financial position is robust yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.
I haven't got a clue about The true financial picture at Durham. Bostock has been quoted that the financial position is healthy,on target to be debt free by 2024. Very few counties could claim that yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.

I feel like the two points combine - as long as we live frugally we will achieve those aims. We can be robust as long as we can continue on with a small group of players, presumably supplemented by loans, add we have been this year. The problem is we haven't been competitive at all

The only question is whether that's down to circumstance and players or coaching
 
John Windows has done an excellent job for 20 years at least. A disciple of Geoff Cook.
Main difficulty is none of us have much idea of the true picture at Durham such is their lack of communication with members.
Bostock is quoted as financial position is robust yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.
I haven't got a clue about The true financial picture at Durham. Bostock has been quoted that the financial position is healthy,on target to be debt free by 2024. Very few counties could claim that yet North appeared to contradict that on SkyTV yesterday.

Depends how you take it really - North too said the finances were in good health, but he did admit that we’re nowhere near the salary cap and it seems you’ve taken that the same way that I did, that the reason why is because we can’t afford to get near it.

Everything else I fully agree with.
These are great debates. Better than reading the press

Better than PMQ’s and QT put together marra ;)
 
Depends how you take it really - North too said the finances were in good health, but he did admit that we’re nowhere near the salary cap and it seems you’ve taken that the same way that I did, that the reason why is because we can’t afford to get near it.

Everything else I fully agree with.


Better than PMQ’s and QT put together marra ;)
Definitely :lol:
 
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