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Booing prior to the kick off.

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Skylon said:
Just a couple of things.You can refer to right wing people, who get outraged at everything,as snowflakes as well.Then you say it's a top notch gesture,but then you say it comes from a criminal(getting killed,by the way),so you cannot support it.And I would just like to also add,I don't care if George Floyd was a criminal.Nobody deserves to be killed,yes killed(not an unfortunate death,purposefully killed),like he was.The taking the knee gesture,has also been around long before this.And,the likes of my son and daughter,have asked me some important questions about racism,and morals in general,because they have seen players taking the knee.They never even started a discussion because of the kick it out campaign.It is well meaning,but rather invisible.Oh,and you can be racist and moderate centre left ,you know?
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This is a little puzzling tbh.

Surely you didn't go through the entire 'kick it out' campaign without regular discussing racism and morals with them.
 

Bear Heed said:
You know you can't.

That's why you're off.

It's possible to be racist against a nation.
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That's prejudice of which "racial prejudice" is a subsection.

Calling Welsh "racist" because they don't like the English is wrong or else where do you stop? Is it "racist" to be universally against all people that don't like spaghetti hoops, watch ITV or support a different football team? They're just a "group" like the English and Welsh after all? Possibly more so due to you not having any control over where you are born yet you (more or less) choose to eat spaghetti hoops, watch ITV, or support a different football team.
 
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ClarenceBoddicker said:
That's prejudice of which "racial prejudice" is a subsection.

Calling Welsh "racist" because they don't like the English is wrong or else where do you stop? Is it "racist" to be universally against all people that don't like spaghetti hoops, watch ITV or support a different football team? They're just a "group" like the English and Welsh after all? Possibly more so due to you not having any control over where you are born yet you (more or less) choose to eat spaghetti hoops, watch ITV, or support a different football team.
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Spaghetti hoop likers aren't a race of people, the Welsh are.
 
daveybigpotatoes said:
Just watched match of the day and it showed Newcastle clapping the knee like all the other Prem clubs. I don’t think the demographics are that different between the cities so why do we appear to have more racist / poorly educated / anti marxist statue huggers coincidentally with BNP tattoos/ coked up losers
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Using Newcastle fans after the way they have welcomed the Saudis :lol:

Is this a wind up :lol:
 
ClarenceBoddicker said:
That's prejudice of which "racial prejudice" is a subsection.

Calling Welsh "racist" because they don't like the English is wrong or else where do you stop? Is it "racist" to be universally against all people that don't like spaghetti hoops, watch ITV or support a different football team? They're just a "group" like the English and Welsh after all? Possibly more so due to you not having any control over where you are born yet you (more or less) choose to eat spaghetti hoops, watch ITV, or support a different football team.
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If it's not racist, what is it?
KGC83 said:
Using Newcastle fans after the way they have welcomed the Saudis :lol:

Is this a wind up :lol:
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As if you can discern anything, about a small group of people, from a 5 second clip broadcast from a football ground with 57,000 spectators :lol:
 
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KGC83 said:
Do you not think it’s weird how it’s only 5 seconds long and you are standing watching each players reaction?

People just love to be outraged
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The only people outraged are the people booing and people defending the booing.
 
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scott934 said:
You're absolutely spot on, it's all just to look after their image on the public facing broadcasts. Meanwhile in the background there's a murderer running one of England's bigger clubs.

Mind, that doesn't mean booing well meaning players is right, it doesn't send the right message, it just looks ignorant.
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I’m not condoning the booing marra, it’s a pretty idiotic thing to do.

However you’re 100% right, taking the “knee” is more about maintaining the image of the broadcasters in what has become a cesspool of greed and corruption in the English game

I suppose seeing the players continuing to do it might feel people sitting tucking in their Sunday lunch watching Sky Sports more comfortable, thinking that the PL & greedy players are doing something to end “social injustice” no matter how meaningless it actually has become.
 
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Bear Heed said:
This is a little puzzling tbh.

Surely you didn't go through the entire 'kick it out' campaign without regular discussing racism and morals with them.
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Didn't garner half as much attention as taking the knee,so the kids didnt ask me about it.Therefore taking the knee has worked
 
CaptainRed said:
It's a strange one. We sit in the West stand and its mainly older people around us and yes the booing is audible but when I look around I've never actually seen anyone doing it!
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I sit in the West stand , I’d guess the booing comes from the SE corner according to my poor hearing .

Certainly I can’t hear anyone near us boo.
 
Hep said:
Do you not think the Welsh are a race of people?

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No (imo) and definitely not the modern inhabitants of Wales as you could also argue that modern inhabitants of Scandinavia are "Norsemen"
 
Skylon said:
Didn't garner half as much attention as taking the knee,so the kids didnt ask me about it.Therefore taking the knee has worked
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They shouldn't have to, that's your job.

If you're relying on campaigns in football, to educate your kids, you may need to have a slight rethink.
 
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It all reminds me of this sketch by Ricky Gervais. If you disagree with taking the knee, just stand still, say nothing and crack on with the match/rest of your day. To go out of the way to boo something like that is almost 100% of the time, racist.
 
ClarenceBoddicker said:
No (imo) and definitely not the modern inhabitants of Wales as you could also argue that modern inhabitants of Scandinavia are "Norsemen"
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The Welsh (Welsh: Cymry) are an ethnic group native to Wales. "Welsh people" applies to those who were born in Wales (Welsh: Cymru) and to those who have Welsh ancestry, perceiving themselves or being perceived as sharing a cultural heritage and shared ancestral origins.
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It all reminds me of this sketch by Ricky Gervais. If you disagree with taking the knee, just stand still, say nothing and crack on with the match/rest of your day. To go out of the way to boo something like that is almost 100% of the time, racist.
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But we've been told that taking the knee isn't only about racism.

Therefore booing isn't automatically racist.
 
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Skylon said:
Thought they were a bit young to be having that conversation.But when they asked about it because of the fantastic taking the knee gesture,I obliged.
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Is your artistic licence paid up to date, they have ways to check you know.
 
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