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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Northumberland Rocks said:
Any tory accepting dodgy Russian money has blood on their hands and anyone defending it likewise. You dont need me to prove how daft you are people read your posts.

If you dance with the devil you deserve everything you get.
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All politicians are dodgy. The bloodiest hands in recent history belong to Tony Blair, but I wouldn't describe people who voted Labour as complicit in his taking us in to an illegal war, and spilling our forces blood. They voted for him, but had no control over his actions, the same as Tory voters this time around.
 
genewolf said:
It depends if you are talking about meteorological or astronomical spring. You seem very vehemently in the astronomical camp, like a young druid.

I wonder if it's the saunas making the Finn's so happy. I think I might like to sit in a sauna as I'm engulfed by the nuclear blast.
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Let me say first of all, I like the Finns.

I've only been a few times and had limited exposure to them while holidaying, but they can seem happy and sad at the same time.

The really odd thing to remember is that despite making some progress their suicide rate is still higher than average.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
West seems to sleepwalk into disasters of their own making. Food and energy security should be number one priority for any UK government going forward.
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Didn't our PM say that any increase in production would be at global prices, our bills will still go up, must say I agree with your sentiment though.
In the early 1980's I was involved in shipments of crude oil from Sullom Joe to the USA, we were selling crude to USA as fast as we could for their strategic petroleum reserve and wasted the money instead of investing it in a sovereign fund like Norway.
 
this morning over western ukraine, 2 aircrew, one parachute open, one not fully open. that means it's probably a SU-34(?) that was shot down

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Northumberland Rocks said:
It should all be stopped whatever party. However, the tories are in the trough way, way way more than Labour.

The difference between the Labour boys and the tory boys is we can admit when there is wrong doing.

You lot seem to have some obsession with Johnson and his lies. It is very weird.
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The biggest lie I’ve ever read on here . The left never admit they are wrong and never listen to another point of view without resorting to personal insults .
Fuck me you lot have some brass neck .
 
Harry Angstrom said:
If we aren’t going to fight we need to squeeze them hard and if that means we all suffer so be it.
I think this should may be another thread mind!
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It’s a valid point you make about squeezing and suffering, the only problem with it is as we all know, once prices go up they’ll never come back down. Once the Russian issue is sorted we, the general public, then face our own battle against consumerism and corporate greed.

For me, the only way around that and the best ‘suffering’ we can do is to have a fundamental lifestyle change and not buy anywhere near as much as we do. Off topic a bit but the world needs a major readjust in, especially in the west in terms of its politics, consumerism and what it’s doing to the planet.
 
Cow said:
It’s a valid point you make about squeezing and suffering, the only problem with it is as we all know, once prices go up they’ll never come back down. Once the Russian issue is sorted we, the general public, then face our own battle against consumerism and corporate greed.

For me, the only way around that and the best ‘suffering’ we can do is to have a fundamental lifestyle change and not buy anywhere near as much as we do. Off topic a bit but the world needs a major readjust in, especially in the west in terms of its politics, consumerism and what it’s doing to the planet.
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Oil was almost zero dollars a barrel a few years back because there was too much in the system.
I think it’s immoral to fund the country while it is bombing civilians in Europe.
 
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cosmicchris00 said:
Let me say first of all, I like the Finns.

I've only been a few times and had limited exposure to them while holidaying, but they can seem happy and sad at the same time.

The really odd thing to remember is that despite making some progress their suicide rate is still higher than average.
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For Finland I might tbe 3/4 months in winter with 1/2 hours of day light is a big factor , other than that I have always found people in Finland very friendly, happy/content
 
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