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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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I don't claim to be correct, I'm just using logic.

His army will be tied up in Ukraine for years to come while Russia teeters on the brink of bankruptcy. I can't see how or why he'd be keen to get himself into more wars, when he's run out of manpower and money.

I could see him installing a puppet regime in Ukraine and leaving them to it (with full supervision and terror tactics).

The mere fact that he invaded Ukraine must mean that he is motivated by a misguided desire to recreate the USSR.

I can easily see him going for Moldova, then finding an excuse to cut through Lithuania to create a 'corridor' to Kaliningrad.
 
No mate.

You said I said something I didn't say. So prove it.

So just to be clear - you definitely *didn’t* suggest that the government was banning protest in this country - despite saying ( and I quote) that the government “are literally passing legislation to make protesting illegal”?

Clear as mud, comrade.

Just out of curiosity - what is it you don’t think you’re going to be entitled to protest about, and which part of which legislation precludes protest on that issue?

f***ing hell, apart from what, 3(?) posts on page 995 it’s just people arguing.

@chunkylover53 can you start another thread that’s about the invasion please where we just keep up to date with it. Ideally with links/sources attached to posts.

This has just turned into a typical Friday night thread.

This tends to happen periodically on the thread, when the small clutch of anti-U.K., pseudo-Putin apologists turn up.
 
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History mate. Russia is.one of very few that stood with India over Bangladesh/East Pakistan. Britian/USA etc sided with Pakistan and they havnt forgotten. Plus the Indian armed forces are pretty much equipped with Russian gear.

A friend of mine has a Russian wife (they live in Brussels) and they travelled extensively in India for 3 months. He's fluent in Russian and quickly decided he'd be better off pretending to be a Russian national as he'd never encountered such anti-British sentiment as in India. Russians receive a warm welcome there. History.
 
A friend of mine has a Russian wife (they live in Brussels) and they travelled extensively in India for 3 months. He's fluent in Russian and quickly decided he'd be better off pretending to be a Russian national as he'd never encountered such anti-British sentiment as in India. Russians receive a warm welcome there. History.
Racism or nationalism exists everywhere unfortunately
 
Snowflake? Ok.

I’m happy with people posting opinions and creating discussion. The ‘fact’ and source part just makes it easier for people to see the source straight away, rather than having to reply asking for the link.

If my post about keeping a thread on topic upsets you so much, I’d suggest you just put me on ignore. There’s a PM function if you wish to engage in personal discussions that no one else is interested in.
I agree with you but your logic also applies to yourself. Snowflake wasn't the appropriate term, apologies.
 
Right. So lager zone was fun.

Let’s maybe get back to the thread.

Thinking through the sanctions a bit more, some random thoughts

- financial sanctions - swift, oil companies, banks etc…they hit the big guys. But most of their cash is offshore
- then there is the trickle down effect. MOEX is on its arse, rouble is worth nothing, they start to hit the middle class
- Netflix, Disney, football - they start to hit the ordinary Russians

This isn’t Iran or NK. It’s been largely international for decades. You can’t suddenly turn off all of the taps that people have know. And not expect a response. Propaganda only works so long
 
f***ing hell, apart from what, 3(?) posts on page 995 it’s just people arguing.

@chunkylover53 can you start another thread that’s about the invasion please where we just keep up to date with it. Ideally with links/sources attached to posts.

This has just turned into a typical Friday night thread.

Unfortunately it would just end up the same way.
 
I could see him installing a puppet regime in Ukraine and leaving them to it (with full supervision and terror tactics).

The mere fact that he invaded Ukraine must mean that he is motivated by a misguided desire to recreate the USSR.

I can easily see him going for Moldova, then finding an excuse to cut through Lithuania to create a 'corridor' to Kaliningrad.

Putin needs one thing more than anything else in order to keep invading and occupying countries: money.

He won't have a pot to piss in by the end of this month and will have much bigger problems keeping his own skint population under control, never mind the people in Lithuania, Ukraine, or wherever else he dreams of conquering.
 
A friend of mine has a Russian wife (they live in Brussels) and they travelled extensively in India for 3 months. He's fluent in Russian and quickly decided he'd be better off pretending to be a Russian national as he'd never encountered such anti-British sentiment as in India. Russians receive a warm welcome there. History.

I wonder if Russia will be so keen to support India if their border dispute with China blows up?
 
Right. So lager zone was fun.

Let’s maybe get back to the thread.

Thinking through the sanctions a bit more, some random thoughts

- financial sanctions - swift, oil companies, banks etc…they hit the big guys. But most of their cash is offshore
- then there is the trickle down effect. MOEX is on its arse, rouble is worth nothing, they start to hit the middle class
- Netflix, Disney, football - they start to hit the ordinary Russians

This isn’t Iran or NK. It’s been largely international for decades. You can’t suddenly turn off all of the taps that people have know. And not expect a response. Propaganda only works so long

The financial sector sanctions will hurt them, but the key to really crippling sanctions against Russia Is the energy sector. So far the sanctions have left the Russian energy sector largely untouched.
 
the view (a thread) of a Russian born political scientist (living in Germany), predicting a defeat for russian forces. he's clearly not a fan of putin

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Putin needs one thing more than anything else in order to keep invading and occupying countries: money.

He won't have a pot to piss in by the end of this month and will have much bigger problems keeping his own skint population under control, never mind the people in Lithuania, Ukraine, or wherever else he dreams of conquering.

Don't forget, he still has the massive revenues from oil and gas, which are usually paid for in dollars, I think.

However, I desperately hope you are right and the sanctions change his course.
 
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