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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Anyone got this arsehole on bbc news from the Lenny Henry centre complaining black refugees aren’t getting the same amount of coverage that white ones are. He’s just said that the news are only reporting on people with blonde hair and blue eyes. Fancy using this disaster to make a petty and selfish point.
 
Behind Enemy Lines said:
He said just the other night: "The Russian attack on the Ukraine is appalling. It's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur." He also provided Ukraine with millions of dollars worth of military equipment during his Presidency (including the javelins that everybody is wanking on about now).

Wanted NATO membes to increase defence spending
Wanted Europeans to reduce reliance on Russian gas
Gave Ukraine millions of dollars worth of military equipment they're using right now against Russians
Told Putin he'd bomb Moscow if Ukraine was touched
Only President in the 21st century on whose watch Russia didn't invade another country

Weird for a pro-Putin, Russian asset. Not to mention the Russia-Trump shite was debunked long ago anyway.
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Imagine being this far down the rabbit hole

You’re beyond help son
 
Hugh Gains said:
Not comparable.

What is comparable is the non-binding 1994 agreement and the guarantees given to Gorbachev of no NATO eastern expansion.

The latter of which is denied on the NATO website but stated in the 2017 declassified minutes of the meeting with Gorbachev in the 90s.
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The denial gets its 'validity' because it wasn't written into the memorandum. Correspondences show the promise existed and was supported by other European leaders and others show the US had ,at best, reservations they could keep the promise or worst, never intended to because they had bigger plans for NATO.
 
OOOSH YEAH said:
Anyone got this arsehole on bbc news from the Lenny Henry centre complaining black refugees aren’t getting the same amount of coverage that white ones are. He’s just said that the news are only reporting on people with blonde hair and blue eyes. Fancy using this disaster to make a petty and selfish point.
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He must have missed the Nigerian medical student leaving Kyiv yesterday, or the dozens of black students pictured at the train station as they evacuate. He should stick to what he's good at, whatever that might be.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
He must have missed the Nigerian medical student leaving Kyiv yesterday, or the dozens of black students pictured at the train station as they evacuate. He should stick to what he's good at, whatever that might be.
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He said he seen that but it is simply not good enough. The lass said that coverage was commensurate with the races of people affected and he was about to disagree but they cut him off and moved on as he was talking shite.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
He must have missed the Nigerian medical student leaving Kyiv yesterday, or the dozens of black students pictured at the train station as they evacuate. He should stick to what he's good at, whatever that might be.
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I have seen several news reports this morning including one where Indian students claimed to have been abused.
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SYB_DC said:
This is a rare time you and I agree. Trump was the embodiment of deterrence through sheer unpredictability. He amply demonstrated that he was unhinged enough that he might well have pressed the button.

I don't have a lot of good to say about Trump, but I think people are correct that this wouldn't have happened with him in office. Mostly because he's nuts, but that's the way that particular cat gets skinned.
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I didn’t want to admit I agree with BEL but completely agree.

This all boils down to two questions. Is Putin mentally stable? And if not does Russia have checks and balances to stop him making the ultimate decision?

But one difference is It was the Nixon administration that devised the Madman approach with the Soviets and it worked because the Soviets didn’t want to escalate. It relies on one sane party.

Having two potential unpredictable characters, which Putin might be now, doesn’t work and could just have led to a disaster
 
SR7 said:
Be interesting to see if he actually makes it to Ukraine. Things like this just make me think of people buying a homeless person a pasty and filming it. You don’t need the world to know you’re doing a good deed.
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hardly a good deed maybe a necessary one
 
Jon Dough said:
I have seen several news reports this morning including one where Indian students claimed to have been abused.
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Aye, been some pretty shit accounts of minorities being treated as essentially inferior refugees.
 

Guitar Man said:
No mate he's trying to save a full scale WW3 ,Few on here are clueless saying don't put up with it ,air attacks etc ,be the first ones crying when the air raid sirens go off and 20 mins to say your goodbyes.
Lets see what the Nato sanctions and Russias normal people starting to get pissed off bring ,already 2 Russian warships have refused to fight at a port near Ukraine and have turned around ,if this snowballs and troops get wind of it it could be a good sign ,maybe thats why they have called another meeting so soon ,clutching at straws i know but lets hope.
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@Reubens tasche

Thanks for educating me you two. Im an eejit sometimes :lol:
 
Wild Card said:
All fair questions and I have no ideas what the right answer is. It is always difficult when nuclear weapons are involved.

I'm certain NATO would flatten Russia, Lets be fair no country is beating America as things stand, I dont even think China could unless it was on pure defensive terms like we are seeing with Russia Vs Ukraine. However, mutually assured destruction isnt worth it.

Lavrov and Russia are just saying anything i feel, to justify their appalling actions.

Reckons it was necessary to invade now because Ukraine were trying to acquire Nuclear weapon. There is only one set of c**ts going round threatening nuclear weapons.

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And they already had nuclear weapons but volunteered to give them up, Russian political leadership are starting to believe their own lies.
 
Jon Dough said:
I have seen several news reports this morning including one where Indian students claimed to have been abused.
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I think much of it is the priority of women and children .

However I'm not naive enough to know that racism is still pretty rifei n eastern Europe and situations like this will bring some of it to the fore
 
Jon Dough said:
I have seen several news reports this morning including one where Indian students claimed to have been abused.
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By militia though. This bloke from the Lenny Henry centre said it’s a disgrace and needs to be investigated. What planet does he live on where he thinks this could Ever happen. We could be on the cusp of WW3 and he’s on about setting up a task force to go out and investigate militia.
 
MonkeyLove said:
I didn’t want to admit I agree with BEL but completely agree.

This all boils down to two questions. Is Putin mentally stable? And if not does Russia have checks and balances to stop him making the ultimate decision?

But one difference is It was the Nixon administration that devised the Madman approach with the Soviets and it worked because the Soviets didn’t want to escalate. It relies on one sane party.

Having two potential unpredictable characters, which Putin might be now, doesn’t work and could just have led to a disaster
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Who's the other unpredictable character?
 
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