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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Rustie Trombone said:
Him and Biden have been pushing to exclude Russia from SWIFT

He's been unequivocal in his condemnation of Putin and we've been helping the Ukrainian military for months to prepare for this invasion

He's not put a foot wrong so far

We need to put our political biases to one side here

The EU have been f***ing brilliant too
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And yet the government still won’t accept refugees, still hasn’t sanctioned any of the donors to the Tory party, still has the son of a KGB officer as a Lord, still hasn’t actually sanctioned Abramovich, still hasn’t sanctioned the now British national who bought his visa and who said Russia was on a special mission, still hasn’t returned any Russian donations, I mean Christ I could go on.
 
Rustie Trombone said:
Him and Biden have been pushing to exclude Russia from SWIFT

He's been unequivocal in his condemnation of Putin and we've been helping the Ukrainian military for months to prepare for this invasion

He's not put a foot wrong so far

We need to put our political biases to one side here

The EU have been f***ing brilliant too
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He needs to weed out the Russian investment and influence in his party. NOW. And open our arms to refugees without such restrictive conditions.

Then I might agree.
 
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Rustie Trombone said:
Him and Biden have been pushing to exclude Russia from SWIFT

He's been unequivocal in his condemnation of Putin and we've been helping the Ukrainian military for months to prepare for this invasion

He's not put a foot wrong so far

We need to put our political biases to one side here

The EU have been f***ing brilliant too
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We also put measures in before the EU. He’s a colossal bellend but he seems to have handled most of this pretty well. The person you replied to is correct tho, not welcoming refugees with open arms as soon as fighting broke out is a massive fuck up.
 
EchoMan said:
Fair enough. And it should be debated. But not here and now. The situation is too critical to sidetrack the thread in any way. Apart from your Grandad of course.
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Horace Cope said:
Costing him 15 million quid a day if rumours are to be believed
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How did Germany manage to fight WW2 for six years ?
I just don't get how Russia cud run out of funds to keep their war effort going when they start from a much stronger financial position than the Germans did
 
Viper said:
Pavel Podvig, Senior Researcher in the WMD Programme at UNIDIR. His current research focuses on nuclear disarmament, arms control and nuclear security:

"This all makes me nervous. Kremlin has no good off-ramps at this point and is looking at an existential threat to the current state. The thing to do at this point is for everyone, literally everyone - US, NATO, NWS, NAS, NNWS, TPNW - to say forcefully and clearly that a threat of nuclear weapons is absolutely unacceptable. ABSOLUTELY. No nuclear dick-waving, please. This might get serious. The French foreign minister's response was exactly the wrong one. You don't outnuclear Putin in this situation"
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Think I read somewhere that the US tried to get Russia to open the agreed back channel so that there wouldn’t be an accidental launch but they didn’t respond.
 
Luna17 said:
How did Germany manage to fight WW2 for six years ?
I just don't get how Russia cud run out of funds to keep their war effort going when they start from a much stronger financial position than the Germans did
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Russia has bought lots of assets but these financial restrictions should mean those assets are worthless.
 
West_Winger said:
Think I read somewhere that the US tried to get Russia to open the agreed back channel so that there wouldn’t be an accidental launch but they didn’t respond.
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This: US Officials report - We requested the Russians activate a back communication channel to prevent any miscalculation or nuclear escalation - we have not yet received a response. via - Politico

No updates
 
West_Winger said:
And yet the government still won’t accept refugees, still hasn’t sanctioned any of the donors to the Tory party, still has the son of a KGB officer as a Lord, still hasn’t actually sanctioned Abramovich, still hasn’t sanctioned the now British national who bought his visa and who said Russia was on a special mission, still hasn’t returned any Russian donations, I mean Christ I could go on.
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I'll bet you a lot of money we do accept the refugees

I realise it's hard to give credit when you have a visceral hatred of someone but I think Boris has really stood up here
 
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