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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Posted on Johnson thread but thought it should go here as well.

Johnson filmed in front of a Galaxy transport last night for TV.

In the early hours of the morning a Galaxy transport near the Ukrainian border was told to abort mission and return to base.

Loose lips cost lives Prime Minister.

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Are the Russian people withdrawing their money so that Putin can’t use it to carry on the assault when the military money runs out?
 
Some mental images of an ambush in Kharkiv this morning. Like something from a film of the Russians silently walking past a playground then all hell breaks lose.

Ukrainians look well organised. Production line of RPGs

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Putin has spoiled the gilded world for the thugs and killers that grabbed Soviet Union assets after the collapse. This will include Roman Abramovich. Without Putin and with a bit of light shining on their affairs they will all get locked up for a very long time.
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I stand with Ukraine but this is disgusting.
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Not many women or children in that video
 
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HellsBells said:
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Putin needs to get here in that case.

Give your head a shake man.
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Sorry what? People are trying to flee war and they are not allowing them on the trains or cross the borders cause they are black. It’s f***ing disgusting no matter what country it happens in.
 
CrosbyFTM said:
Sorry what? People are trying to flee war and they are not allowing them on the trains or cross the borders cause they are black. It’s f***ing disgusting no matter what country it happens in.
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Maybe it’s a dispute about people pushing in? Do we know the facts? You get arseholes in all walks of life but I’ve been nowt but impressed at how little have wanted to leave and how many have chosen to stay and fight.
 
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Putin hasn’t asked for that
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Baloo said:
A legitimate and legal referendum should have taken place in Donbas when it was still possible to have been fair and free. Federalisation and decentralisation would have likely appeased the region. Up until a couple of years ago this would have probably still been an acceptable solution. This is a couple of years old now, but makes for interesting reading.


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Not related to any post, but this thread is flagging up on my browser as “not secure”. Anyone else having this issue? Only seems to be this thread.
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I'm sure they do, but its not going to happen, because the West, mainly the Yanks don't want it to happen, creating division amongst Ukraine ranks, between themselves and between Ukraine and Russia is paramount to the aims of the West, and that I believe is to further expand NATO, weaken Russia and then maybe 10-15 years down the line conjure up some sort of proxy war with Russia. Putin just speeded things up and possibly brought this forward 10-15 years.
 
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1/2 German NTV news mentioned that Putin might hold a speech today. He's obviously backed into a corner which means he could threaten the West with everything he's got - nuclear intervention included. Possibly a prelude to a great and desperate offensive before West's arms arrive

2/2 Last night's larger offensive does not seem to have achieved any remarkable goals for Russia. The speech might be an attempt to get Zelensky into Minsk to "negotiate" through intimidation, we'll have to wait and see. Zelensky will certainly deny this offfer to meet in Minsk
 
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There is nothing in that video to suggest that though. There were hundreds of people unable to get on trains yesterday.
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There’s loads loads more in that thread itself. There are videos of African people at the polish border being refused entry. There’s more videos at the train station where it’s just African families including children have been left behind and abandoned. It’s happening. People can ignore it and try and justify it if it doesn’t fit their agenda but the racism there is rife and upsetting when these people will be just as scared as everyone else.
 
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