Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

[Paddy O'Dors]

EDIT: As a caveat to my post #9954

After having read up a little more on NATO - Article 5 is only operative North of the Tropic of Cancer., moreover..

• on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France (2), on the territory of or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;

Ukraine of course is North of the Northern Tropic (Tropic of Cancer) however this is moot simply because they aren't members of NATO and Article 5 doesn't apply - Get my point now about the scramble??

It's why we didn't get much help with the Falklands war.

Talking of the Falklands I wonder if this invasion is giving the Argies some ideas

In light of the fact that the current conflict in Europe is about Russia invading another sovereign country, it would be pretty crass of them to invade another sovereign country. If owt it should be making any claims they have even more remote.

 

[Northern_chappy]

What Ukraine has already done is explode the myth of the unstopable Russian army.

It has has always been a collection of strangers and amateurs, certainly brave enough but not well trained and unable to find their collective asses with both hands if expected to think for themselves.

So, when Putin starts threatening any NATO country from now on just imagine what even just a brigade of US Marines, the best trained, most cohesive, loyal to each other, well armed fighting force on the planet would do to his troops. Fish in a barrel it would be.

The myth is done. From now on the old fool has only one threat left. To go nuclear.

Agree with the idea but

Royal Marines > US Marines

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Morning all.

I take it Ukraine is still standing firm. Class.

 

[The King of Um]

A lot of yanks gone the war tourist route the last few years to the Ukraine.

Correct.

I see that absolute gonk Lord Miles or whatever who was taking up British army time when he decided to go and be a narcissist in Kabul is now in Kiev doing his little videos.

 

[janey]

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[Super Mario]

This is extremely premature considering there's about 30,000 out of combined 230,000 troops invading. The original figure was 200,000 but with Belarus and Chechnya having confirmed forces assisting that figure has significant rose, and would of been alot worse if Kazakhstan obliged.

This is just the first 'wave' of attacks, the other 200,000 are still awaiting orders and the territory the first wave have seized are pretty much unofficially annexed. If you look at the geography of what the Russians have taken thus far, the northern cities link up with the Belarus border who consider themselves a co-state of Russia and the south-east are in between Crimea and the separatist regions, both which the Ukrainians are never seeing ever again.

They might not be the most highly trained soldiers but they've been set a task to conquer or destroy everything in it's path, and will very most likely succeed by just pure attrition

It is just a matter of time and although it pains me to say this now he has attacked and the war is ongoing the quickest way to end it is with Russia installing a puppet leader and leaving again, then the world can work out what to do next.

Unless Putin was prepared to leave with half of the Ukraine and leave the rest independent, which would make financial sense and avoid embarrassing himself

 

[Lonz]

It’s a great commentary for what's going on, but you can see where people are getting suckered. @MackemX is a master at sussing these things out.

Was just wondering this last night as it happens. I’ve been amazed by how long the internet connections have been able to run for so long. It’s vital for global public opinion to stop the Russian controlling the flow of the media. Great move.

 

[Emma Chisset]

Are you still pretending to be a Cuban woman?

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Yes, I am still 'pretending' that.

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[citybythesea]

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I’d be in the queue too if I was Russian

 

[Bulmers]

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I think it is their ultras probably normal pre match meetup pre Donetsk game

 

[HJ91]

Yes, I am still 'pretending' that.

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I'm really hoping you've put an image of Ron Swanson in the hope that someone sees the trolling?

 

[HellsBells]

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Mate, your boy literally got impeached for threatening Zelensky with removing aid to fight the Russians if he didn’t give him dirt on his political rivals.

 

[ravydavygravy]

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Gonna be carnage in Moscow

 

[FootballFan]

Putin is a dead man walking

 

[Kevj]

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If the image is true, then Dynamo Kyiv have joined the fighting.

Edit: hadn’t seen the previous Twitter link had been posted.

 

[Trumpet]

Brilliant.

My wife is a Dinamo Kiev fan and I remember us watching them on TV versus Everton in the Europa Cup ( I think Dinamo won 5-1 or 5-2?). She kept referring Everton to me as "your guys". I had to tell her several times they ain't "my guys" and like her I was supporting Dinamo.

My second team from now on Haway the lads who fuked the Vlads

What Ukraine has already done is explode the myth of the unstopable Russian army.

It has has always been a collection of strangers and amateurs, certainly brave enough but not well trained and unable to find their collective asses with both hands if expected to think for themselves.

So, when Putin starts threatening any NATO country from now on just imagine what even just a brigade of US Marines, the best trained, most cohesive, loyal to each other, well armed fighting force on the planet would do to his troops. Fish in a barrel it would be.

The myth is done. From now on the old fool has only one threat left. To go nuclear.

Exactly why this is so shit scary

 

[elder]

lots of videos around obviously and hard to sort the wheat from the chaff but thought i'd post this one which is allegedly a group of ukranian police and locals that blocked the path of some russian tanks.
the assumption is that the russians (these russians) don't really want to get involved in the fight...

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[Luna17]

That figure has to be wrong, four days of war eats up their annual budget.

If that happens, Putin can hoy in his illegally gotten personal gains of 200 billion to keep them going two weeks longer.

 

[Paddy O'Dors]

This is extremely premature considering there's about 30,000 out of combined 230,000 troops invading. The original figure was 200,000 but with Belarus and Chechnya having confirmed forces assisting that figure has significant rose, and would of been alot worse if Kazakhstan obliged.

This is just the first 'wave' of attacks, the other 200,000 are still awaiting orders and the territory the first wave have seized are pretty much unofficially annexed. If you look at the geography of what the Russians have taken thus far, the northern cities link up with the Belarus border who consider themselves a co-state of Russia and the south-east are in between Crimea and the separatist regions, both which the Ukrainians are never seeing ever again.

They might not be the most highly trained soldiers but they've been set a task to conquer or destroy everything in it's path, and will very most likely succeed by just pure attrition

How much are the Russian propaganda department paying you?

 

[HellsBells]

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GOOD.