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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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SYB_DC said:
I’m not sure what you’re saying here. At best, you’re hoping for death. At worst, you’re a pathetic Putin ass-sucker.

Either way, you’re no Zelensky. Or, like, normal.
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Why do I have to state I hate Putin more than I dislike Zelensky in almost every post?
 
r@mside said:
We were discussing the build up to the current invasion. There was an active arrangement in place and it was being monitored by the OSCE, I provided a link to one of their reports upthread.


I think Russian nationalism is plain to see and not really a debating point. It's the antithesis of our values.

I think when it comes to weapons grade cognitive dissonance, you should try reading the posts and responding to what they say because you're another who when applying imagination manages to fly miles from the point.

The fact that the Ukraine parliament is not populated by far right groups does not mean they don't exist and it doesn't have influence.

I don't know if you're simply unaware but if you are, don't you ask yourself where the far right militias get their weapons, why are they allowed to operate and why no-one has brought them to account for the allegations of human rights abuses and war crimes?

As I said in another post, we need to consider the ramifications of getting into bed with some of these people.
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All countries have far right groups. Including the UK and Russia.

I am fully aware of the accusations against Ukrainian far right militia (Proud Boys of the Donbas or whatever).

What no one has fully investigated is how many of the far right militia in East Ukraine are Russian plants to create a false flag (or be it a not very good and one which doesn’t justify invasion).
 
SYB_DC said:
With respect (cough) you mistake the battle. It’s democracy versus authoritarianism. The economic systems just happen to roughly correlate.

Good people and healthy nations fight only for moral reasons and do it when it’s necessary. This war has shown that our world is sick, but it’s hardly capitalist expansionism that is the problem here. That’s rather ballsy turnabout of an accusation in the context of a KGB officer’s attempt to get the old band back together.
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Both versions are true!
I’m not siding with either.
 
chrismisterx said:
My god its like a Russian bot account,

Deflect, Deflect, Deflect.

You missed the point, We had no choice due to the article 5 treaty in NATO but to help the USA in Afghanistan, all NATO members helped in one way or another, it was an act after a NATO member was attacked. Its simple really.

Just because we were working with Russia isnt the issue, we have condemned his attack, So what if we traded with them in the past, its what is happening now thats important, Russia has broken the treaty to safe guard Ukraine's borders, not us, not the USA , just Russia. Russia lied about working on diplomacy while moving troops into place to attack on many fronts, Putin was always going to attack no matter what, we can see that clearly now.

Do you know our current policy with regards safe guarding Ukraine citizens?

You do understand how stupid your sounding, Russia was trading, investing and working with most of the developed world, and it was encouraged to make sure we didn't slip back to another cold war, but Putin has invaded another country, its how we react how thats important and unlike Germany, Italy and a few others we have condemned it and started the ball rolling with sanctions, I hope we ramp the sanctions up as we go.

But you know this and are posting a load of crap to deflect from the issue.

Russia has attacked an European country for no other reason to split it up, cause a change in that countries government and to stop the free will of that country in have closer ties to NATO and the EU.
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As pointed out on other threads this tit is a journo for Russia Today spouts the same poop in his articles. Has an number of aliases.
 
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