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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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Chatty83 said:
It was Swedish/Fennoscandia/kvenland long before it was part of Russia and never really wanted to be part of Russia, took the first chance it got for independence.

All this shite about the soviet union can buggar offz most of it was just conquered states that weren't there's in the first place.
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Please read about Finnish civil war. Reds (bit of a clue for you) vs whites.
 
Reubens tasche said:
China is a massively clever tactician who will play the waiting game to its advantage, early suggestions are they will begrudgingly hedge towards the US on this one as the dollar is worth a hell of a lot more than the rouble to them, if so putin has signed his own death sentence as apart from Belarus he’s completely on his own if shit gets even more serious
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Christ can we stop the master tactician, genius bollocks about China and Russia. There is nowt clever about being the top boss in fucked up countries it just means you are the scariest bastard in you country.
 
Church said:
Dom, with respect, shut up mate.

It clearly isn't possible to stay out if it. We took Ukraine under the western Europe wing, persuaded them to give up their nukes on the understanding we would help them if necessary, and here we are.
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With respect your argument stinks
We will do anything to advance Capitalism anywhere we can.
Especially in historically socialist countries.

My phone needs charging be back later to answer all your bullshit.
 
dom said:
I can’t remember everyone threatening to invade the USA
Daily Mail readers unite against Putin when Western Leaders are just as bad.
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And how would they invade themselves? If your talking about us then it's literally on the otherside of an ocean, they are also an ally and they would destroy us with ease.

Surely you must understand context, doesn't mean people agreed with it or wanted invasions. Invasions of all Korea, Vietnam, Aghanistan, Iraq etc have been met with most people dissapointed in the western governments.
 
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Sad times, some of the shit I've seen today I would have bet my life was gone for good. Russia attacking a democratic neighbour, tanks with fecking USSR flags and the Russian army picking off civillians, this is not what we wanted back in my youth and I can't really believe it's happening.
Zelenskyy is a true hero mind, balls the size of grapefruits.
The worst thing about this for me is that the average Russian wants the same life as the rest of the west, fuck Putin.
 
TravellingMackem said:
You are on something if you genuinely believe that. If you’d ever worked in the industry you’d know this was beyond a pipe dream
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I have worked in the industry.

Have you forgotten our conversation on another thread last year?

As a former schedule manager I can confidently quote realistic timescales which you evidently cannot.
 
Bulmers said:
Christ can we stop the master tactician, genius bollocks about China and Russia. There is nowt clever about being the top boss in fucked up countries it just means you are the scariest bastard in you country.
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Your correct , I’m sure there was a thread a while back claiming Putin was some genius.
 
JohnKay said:
Sad times, some of the shit I've seen today I would have bet my life was gone for good. Russia attacking a democratic neighbour, tanks with fecking USSR flags and the Russian army picking off civillians, this is not what we wanted back in my youth and I can't really believe it's happening.
Zelenskyy is a true hero mind, balls the size of grapefruits.
The worst thing about this for me is that the average Russian wants the same life as the rest of the west, fuck Putin.
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Not saying this is right about the USSR flag but during brexit I was bombarded by memes of f***ing spitfires & Lancaster bombers. A gammon div is a gammon div at end of day.

Hooligan in tank = green light to fly daft flag.
 
Suomifinland said:
Please read about Finnish civil war. Reds (bit of a clue for you) vs whites.
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I know this but the point was that Finland isn't Russia, has been independent from them from most of their history and Putin and some Russians are off the idea that they should now forever have power over former Soviet states that were even there land to begin with.

It's just arseholes on a power trip being bostagic about an Empire. It'd be bi different to us attacking Scotland and saying well it used to be under our rule so it's our land and in the past lots of English sided with the Scots in the civil war as well.
 
dom said:
With respect your argument stinks
We will do anything to advance Capitalism anywhere we can.
Especially in historically socialist countries.

My phone needs charging be back later to answer all your bullshit.
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With respect (cough) you mistake the battle. It’s democracy versus authoritarianism. The economic systems just happen to roughly correlate.

Good people and healthy nations fight only for moral reasons and do it when it’s necessary. This war has shown that our world is sick, but it’s hardly capitalist expansionism that is the problem here. That’s rather ballsy turnabout of an accusation in the context of a KGB officer’s attempt to get the old band back together.
 
AB22 Easy Tiger said:
Won’t have any effect. He has personal gold reserves and his money is in Russia. This is no mare than a token gesture
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I don’t disagree. However the act isn’t in relation to throttling his wealth. It’s in relation to making a statement that his actions are unacceptable. I can’t fathom why this is still under consideration rather than the first act made following the invasion.
West_Winger said:
Agree but unfortunately it’s purely symbolic as nothing is in his name personally.
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See above
 
sonson said:
Other countries have lifted any restrictions.

We're asking refugees to go through a process which is baffling and exhaustive even peace time and only after reaching centres in Poland, Romania, Hungary and Moldova
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Ukraine shares borders with those countries. It makes no sense for Great Britain to send officials across to Ukraine to try and sort refugees whilst in Ukraine, it’s not safe and almost logistically impossible.

Once on the above countries, we (Britain) will process refugees from there.
 
SYB_DC said:
With respect (cough) you mistake the battle. It’s democracy versus authoritarianism. The economic systems just happen to roughly correlate.

Good people and healthy nations fight only for moral reasons and do it when it’s necessary. This war has shown that our world is sick, but it’s hardly capitalist expansionism that is the problem here. That’s rather ballsy turnabout of an accusation in the context of a KGB officer’s attempt to get the old band back together.
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His phone has run out of battery mate. 😁
 
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