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Scorer said:
For all we know Keane may have had input. The side was fairly obviously chosen on the basis they had something to prove. Often you get a reaction to that, we didn’t. I think it’s as simple as that, no need to read any more in to it.
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Why didn't they change it after half an hour and get a winger or 2 on then? They're just clueless
 
Zidane said:
Speakman is clearly very thorough in his work and the things we see and hear at SAFC are becoming, rightly or wrongly, increasingly like a normal large organisation, e.g. the words they use, the processes etc. I imagine there are improvement programmes, succession plans, people meetings, and all kinds of stuff like where I work.

In a normal business you would be very thorough in the interviews if the position was absolutely critical to business success, and that's what they are doing.

Of course in football, while undertaking a thorough process, you've lost two games in addition to those you lost to create the vacancy and there's absolute hell on.
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I’m sorry but unless the incumbent manager is showing gross incompetence then you don’t sack him then take a week to piss around sounding out various alternatives. We are in the middle
of a vital part of our fifth season in this shit heap of a division.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Are you taking the piss tonight or what like?
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my post is true..mike dodds doesnt work with safc first team..he probably knows a bit about the academy teams and those of rival clubs..but he wont know much about our first team or the first team of other league one clubs..why would he?
andysafc24 said:
Man City can afford to be choosy, we can’t. Have you seen the shortlist of applicants?
One Box Office outstanding candidate
the rest… Lee Johnson wannabes
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why cnat safc afford to be choosy? its a massive club in the play off places..
 
billybobmackem2312 said:
What the fucks the point in interviewing Keano and getting us excited, if they had no intention of employing him. No one knows wtf is going on.

There’s a 1000 possibilities as to what’s going on, Keano arguing about the length of the contract, speakman worried about Keano being out the game too long, Methven and Donald not wanting Keano as he’ll shout about the shit state of the club in the press if it goes tits up etc.

If we end up with Grant McCann though I’ll be sick as a parrot.
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It has to be Keane or Warnock, we don't have time for philosophies or USPs.

We have to go up this season and it's arguably more likely with a motivation merchant. [I do feel however that branded them that is a dis service aswell]

Bring a fancy dancy coach in and we don't go up, he's gonna lose half the squad and teaching philosophy again.

Keane is one of the best players ever, took sunderland from the bottom of the championship to premier league safety and people are saying he's done nowt. Yet Steve Bruce has made a career of getting promotion from the championship and doing fuck all else and is seen as a great appointment where ever he goes.
 
kildaremackem said:
why would mike dodds know that about the opposition? he doesnt work with our first tea,m..so wont be an expert on this league or have watched many games...
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I’ll repeat again for you should I……mike dodds or any of the others put in charge yesterday did not have to have experience of working with the first team or be an expert on this league to know that making only 1 change to a team battered the week before and playing in the same manner would produce one outcome and one outcome only.
 
Emcon said:
We've NOT followed this doctrine since Allardyce left the club and its served us well hasn't it. Making decisions the fans blow up the next day.
Unite the fans with someone we trust and miracles can happen.
I think some fans love the division, because they're really do believe its the fans fault these past few years.
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Hate this league. Keene could be the way out but if he doesn’t could dropping current strategy set us back a couple of seasons? I don’t have the answers but see it’s far more complex than some fans believe.
 
kildaremackem said:
my post is true..mike dodds doesnt work with safc first team..he probably knows a bit about the academy teams and those of rival clubs..but he wont know much about our first team or the first team of other league one clubs..why would he?

why cnat safc afford to be choosy? its a massive club in the play off places..
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I dont but could have done a better job than he did yesterday
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
If we end up with McCann or an ilk appointment and we dont go up they will be lucky if there are 15,000 there next season.

A massive day or two for this club.
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If we sacked Johnson only to replace him with a McCann type manager after a ‘fact finding’ mission and detailed recruitment process Id not gan back this season. And I suspect many others who go to every other home games would think the same.
 
Emcon said:
We've NOT followed this doctrine since Allardyce left the club and its served us well hasn't it. Making decisions the fans blow up the next day.
Unite the fans with someone we trust and miracles can happen.
I think some fans love the division, because they're really do believe its the fans fault these past few years.
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Yep. I'm not one who thinks fans know everything - sometimes the popular choices flop totally - but it's very rare that you get an appointment who nobody wants end up being able to exceed expectations and win fans over (certainly in my experience following Sunderland).

Absolutely nobody other than the directors thought Grayson or Parkinson or Wilkinson or Buxton would be anything other than disastrous, and they weren't. To my mind, a Lennon/McCann/Woodgate-type appointent would be of the exact same ilk, equally damaging to fan confidence as it would be to our on-pitch prospects.
 
Hugh Gains said:
It has to be Keane or Warnock, we don't have time for philosophies or USPs.

We have to go up this season and it's arguably more likely with a motivation merchant. [I do feel however that branded them that is a dis service aswell]

Bring a fancy dancy coach in and we don't go up, he's gonna lose half the squad and teaching philosophy again.

Keane is one of the best players ever, took sunderland from the bottom of the championship to premier league safety and people are saying he's done nowt. Yet Steve Bruce has made a career of getting promotion from the championship and doing fuck all else and is seen as a great appointment where ever he goes.
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bruce did four promotions to keanes one promotion..and kept teams in the league for years..and got an unfashionable club to cup final..he wasnt a bad player either..
comparing his record as z manager to keanes is absolutely ludicrous
 
kildaremackem said:
my post is true..mike dodds doesnt work with safc first team..he probably knows a bit about the academy teams and those of rival clubs..but he wont know much about our first team or the first team of other league one clubs..why would he?

why cnat safc afford to be choosy? its a massive club in the play off places..
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He proved himself to be miles out of touch in regards to the current situation. Played the same side that got humped, made no HT subs and when he did make them it was too late.

Was like an LJ parody.

Oh wait a minute, he's from Birmingham and hired by Speakman.

Should never have been handed temporary control.

Kevin Ball would honestly have been better and I would have respected it.
 
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