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Roy Keane

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jsdftm04 said:
"What did he mean? It would depend upon the club, he said. And then he brought up Sunderland. The point was that if by some freak of disastrous results, Sunderland lost their place in the Football League and he was asked to become their manager, he would seriously consider the offer. Even if they were non-League, Sunderland, he said, were a club with a fine history, a great stadium, a big and passionate following."

I absolutely love Keane
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Just get the fucker appointed Speakman man. Fuck your fact finding mission and appoint the only available character who is big enough to handle the club and it’s expectations
 

West_Winger said:
Yes because he’s more interested in his own self promotion than the best thing for the club.

Keane won’t stand for any of his management pseudospeak bollocks and he knows it, so if anyone comes along who will then that’s who’ll be appointed then Speakman can blame “the wrong implementation of the philosophy” when it goes tits up rather than the fact it’s his fault.
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i get that and frankly i cant stand the bloke. We all know why LJ got the job and he fitted perfectly with his rubbish talk however it will be Keano this time.
 
thecloughywobble said:
David Walsh of the Sunday Times on Roy Keane & TS Eliot:


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"What did he mean? It would depend upon the club, he said. And then he brought up Sunderland. The point was that if by some freak of disastrous results, Sunderland lost their place in the Football League and he was asked to become their manager, he would seriously consider the offer. Even if they were non-League, Sunderland, he said, were a club with a fine history, a great stadium, a big and passionate following."
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Brilliant article. Got me back on the up. Come home Roy, the time is right.
 
Sweeper said:
Do you seriously think he’s asking for unreasonable sums of money? If he was, why hasn’t the club killed off the Keane talk long before now?
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I haven’t a clue. But when football people say ‘it isn’t about the money’, I think it means that it isn’t just about the money and, in Keane’s case it maybe about length of contract, terms and conditions of contract, termination clauses, club structure, incentives, control over recruitment, appointments of support staff, control over support staff salary, player recruitment, player salaries, discipline, dealings with agents and, judging on what happened last time, whether or not somebody who owns the club is entitled to speak with him about anything and whether he can resign based on what he might want to talk to him about before he’s even spoken with him at all.

OK. The last bit was sarcastic and meant in humour. But the principle of saying ‘give him anything he wants’ when that might mean a complete u turn on the approach and strategy on what the people interviewing him have been building and completely contradictory to how they operate now is unrealistic. Nobody interviewing anybody for anything is going to abandon their entire organisational approach to accommodate somebody that will be working for them for a few years.

We’re in the first division and are failing to get out of it. So I’m not saying that the current senior regime’s approach is correct - but to expect them to abandon it to recruit a head coach is unrealistic. If indeed that were the case. Which it very probably isn’t. But you said (was it you?) “give him anything he wants”.
 
George Kaplan said:
What happens if Keane is offered the position but turns it down?

Will the criticism switch to “they offered him a crap deal because he scares them, or because they’re incompetent”?

Or will it be “they didn’t want him, they just wanted to appease the fans, so they didn’t try hard enough”

Or will it be “the bastard was stringing us along, never wanted to come unless it was a stupidly beneficial deal for him”

Or will it be “he wasn’t convinced that the current group of players, or the ownership, or the structure were viable so he obviously turned us down”

And in any and all of these scenarios, how stupid will we all look and how hard will it make the job for the alternative managerial option?

Sorry to ask- I’m just trying to make plans for the forthcoming week and I like to make checklists.
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Speakman is clearly the new enemy for our Neanderthals
 
Should have had a short list of people before Johnson gone, interviewed them over a couple of days then manager announced. They say they want promotion this season but dragging their heels. I'm now wondering whether they are thinking about a longer term manager rather than a short term hence the time taken on who to bring in. If that is true though, they have writ off any chance of promotion or know they will find it difficult for play off spot.

I think Keane would take a long term contract if offered but short term I'm not so sure, not after yesterdays performance anyway.
 
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