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OzzyMac said:
So they've told you that they've invested 38 million. What on? Paying off Bruce and cleanung the windows at the landfill?

Stavely has appeared and spoken words, hollow words anarl. If this is communication then we were the luckiest club in the world with Donald and Methven.
Any reason why your 80% owners and not their lackies haven't spoken to the fans, staff and media? After all, they're the ones with the cheque book.
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Any kind of detergent is rare in nyoocaarsell. It doesn’t come cheap. Spotswashing and window cleaning is the closest the scruffy hooers have ever come to soap.
 

OzzyMac said:
Lets start with your own post shall we.

“We will inject our own money into the January transfer window. - Hollow words as the January window hasn't come yet

We are committed to investing in this club. Another hollow sound bite

We do not need sponsorship revenue to do that. Yet can't wait for the sports direct signage to come down. Why would that be perchance? I'm thinking sponsporship revenue.

We’ve already invested £38million [of equity] last week and we’ll invest whatever we need to enter into the transfer window. Again, what 38 million, another sound bite.
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Sounds like something salmon strides and the hobbler would come away with.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
First of all I have no desire to take Saudi flags or wear Saudi headdress or promote anything that is deemed atrocious.
I can't help who takes the club over regardless of whether people think I can.
I can stop supporting and being a fan of Newcastle United to appease people...but I won't. I won't because I'm a Newcastle United supporter and fan and have been nigh on all my life barring being too young to know.
I'll keep saying this, as and when I'm pulled up.

If Newcastle supporters are on the end of the digs then they're going to counter those digs. It's only normal to do so.

I'm not defending it but I'm accused of defending it.
Why?
Because I'm using counter arguing about morals when people try to use smaller percentage ownership against larger percentage and saying there's a cut off point where it doesn't count as partaking for them and so their morals are intact.


Fine and it's so easy to say this for anyone.
We can all say whatever we want about anything if it's not happening to us. The proof is in the pudding and the eating of it when it does happen, to see what's really what.
You may have a stance where you genuinely know you'd give up your club if it happened. I'd suggest most wouldn't and the ground would fill up even if there was an initial stance against.

It literally is the nature of the beast within us.
It doesn't mean anyone has to openly, vocally support a regime that's deemed atrocious.
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The cut off point is the active campaigning and you know it. Donald Duck enthusiasts didn’t actively campaign for the House of Saud to invest in Disney. Of course you’ll ignore this post as you do all of the ones that nail an element of your fans. You’re finished as a serious poster on here and have been since this nonsense started.
 
Mr Clarko said:
So one season he outperformed his average and the next he underperformed... How does that change the job again? He was still a football manager right? Why are we ignoring most of his career? Where did I trip up?

If it's logic then you should be able to explain it like I did, but you can't... I provided her quote as EVIDENCE of the new owners investing in the club, do you have ANY evidence that she lied? No. Therefore, not hollow.
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you should have gone for ian evett then. he's got a win rate of 44.3%.
admittedly its with barrow and bolton, but the league he's managed in doesn't matter does it?
 
riffraff said:
The cut off point is the active campaigning and you know it. Donald Duck enthusiasts didn’t actively campaign for the House of Saud to invest in Disney.
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Ahhh, ok, so this is all about those who petitioned.
Ok, can you tell me who petitioned and their reasons for the petition?
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Of course you’ll ignore this post as you do all of the ones that nail an element of your fans.
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Clearly not. I think I do a decent job of replying to as many as possible. Some are obviously overlooked.
riffraff said:
You’re finished as a serious poster on here and have been since this nonsense started.
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I really don't care what poster you think I am. That's a choice you can make and stick with. It has no effect on what I post.
Only the mods/admin can decide that.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
That's not a ban and I certainly have nothing against this post.

No, that's not what I claim. I claim morals are subjective.
Some people think it's morally acceptable for lots of stuff that we do not..... and believe it or not our morals do not always stand up as moralistic to other countries. Do you agree?


The line is drawn throughout all of countries as to right and wrong. One persons right is another person's wrong, in many many cases.
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Duck off philosophical mag 😂😂😂. Your only applying this logic because it suites your agenda. The reason the geordie nation are the worst fans in the country is because of your inability to see beyond the end of your noses (and delusions of grandeur). You happily change that line of what’s right and wrong to suit what’s gunna be best for you and your little world.

Remember the uproar at the pay day loans company on your tops, very fair. The highlighting of Mike Ashley’s poor business practices (only happened after you lot realised the guy wasn’t gunna use his money to bankroll you, classic mag behaviour).

Yet your now getting financially backed by the same guys who funded the pilots eduction of the 911 terrorists, openly kill journalist, kill and torture minority groups. It’s the most Newcastle thing ever to now say let’s focus on the football just like it will be if you don’t succeed, to then highlight these issues, as reason for why you then need a change of owner. Your an embarrassment to British football always have been, always will be.

This whole episode for me makes me proud of my club and our fans and that we are the antithesis of what you lot are.
#toriesofthenorth
 
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REDM1ST said:
Have a read of the flat earther thread then you’ll see how stupid the goon in question is. 🤯
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Ower busy chopping up journalists or bombing school busses, plus the truck has arrived for the next stoning, that whore had it coming to her for allowing herself to be raped. A quick sweep up to get rid of the gays then we’re ready.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It's not a case of, I must because; it's a case of, I am a Newcastle fan and supporter, regardless.

It's about anyone who supports the PIF no matter how small and no matter the argument for reasons other than Newcastle.
If you have nothing to do with anything the PIF are part of then your morals may b e sound, assuming you don;t support something else that offer bad things to their people in whatever countries.
Can you categorically say you don't? If not you're basically a saint and if so,...well, do I need to spell it out?

Only time would tell on whether this would be the case and if you stood by your stance then do you think all of Sunderland would follow you?

Nope. Just putting a few things into perspective.

This moral issue in itself needs debating because it's a mixed case with people who believe they have them until something they're involved in is deemed immoral and yet it'll be argued as not.
Subjective.

Ok let's think about this.
Do the people of different countries...in this case, Saudi Arabia believe certain atrocities are morally correct for them?
I can go on and on and on about morals of countries that don't fit our ways.
So you still think they're not subjective?
The list is almost endless with arguments about people with so called morals who then have some kind of influence in other immoral stuff.


We are in the case of the argument that was levied against Newcastle fans being that. It then applies to all. Or it doesn't and it was said merely to incite argument.

Nobody's arguing morals not being important. They are massively important but are so subjective. One persons morals are another persons immorality.
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Absolute rubbish.
I'm certainly not going to waste my time discussing whether "murder, rape and child abuse" are "subjective" with you.
In my worldview they're not.

You're just equivocating everything and trying to take the discussion somewhere else.

Nothing ever 'lands' with you - every statement made is merely a springboard to continue the conversation and steer it away. I can see why you're a flat earther.

I've stated my position and you've stated yours. You've eloquently told us that you have indeed no moral centre.

We're done.
 
red mackem said:
Duck off philosophical mag 😂😂😂. Your only applying this logic because it suites your agenda.
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I don't have any agenda other than being a fan of Newcastle United.
red mackem said:
The reason the geordie nation are the worst fans in the country is because of your inability to see beyond the end of your noses (and delusions of grandeur).
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In your opinion which is not shared by everyone.
red mackem said:
You happily change that line of what’s right and wrong to suit what’s gunna be best for you and your little world.
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No. I argue the morals of people being subjective because they are.
red mackem said:
Remember the uproar at the pay day loans company on you tops, very fair.
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Subjective morals.
red mackem said:
The highlighting of Mike Ashley’s poor business practices (only happened after you lot realised the guy wasn’t gunna use his money to bankroll you, classic mag behaviour).
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Subjective morals.
red mackem said:
Yet your now getting financially backed by the same guys who funded the pilots eduction of the 911 terrorists, openly kill journalist, kill and torture minority groups.
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That's out of my hands.
red mackem said:
It’s the most Newcastle thing ever to now say let’s focus on the football just like it will be if you don’t succeed, to then highlight these issues, as reason for why you then need a change of owner. Your an embarrassment to British football always have been, always will be.
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That's your mindset and you're welcome to it.
red mackem said:
This whole episode for me makes me proud of my club and our fans and that we are the antithesis of what you lot are.
#toriesofthenorth
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Good for you. If you feel that way then that's your way in life. I have no issues with what you choose.
 
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