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ALL NUFC and Sportwashing stuff in here. (Threads will be merged)

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Nukehasslefan said:
It's not a case of, I must because; it's a case of, I am a Newcastle fan and supporter, regardless.

It's about anyone who supports the PIF no matter how small and no matter the argument for reasons other than Newcastle.
If you have nothing to do with anything the PIF are part of then your morals may b e sound, assuming you don;t support something else that offer bad things to their people in whatever countries.
Can you categorically say you don't? If not you're basically a saint and if so,...well, do I need to spell it out?

Only time would tell on whether this would be the case and if you stood by your stance then do you think all of Sunderland would follow you?

Nope. Just putting a few things into perspective.
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Then by definition and by your own words you have no strong morals, principles or ethics.

Statements about "murder, rape, child abuse being morally wrong" are not subjective statements to be discussed in the light of whatever "context" you personally think is relevant.

If you do think such moral standpoints are "subjective" then there's nothing further to discuss.

But I will add one final thing - we are not "all sociopaths" as you assert.

The only person I've ever met who argued that personal morals and ethics weren't important and were indeed 'subjective' wasn't a sociopath - it was an autistic person with personality traits clustered around psychopathy I met a few years ago.
 

Guinness Guzzler said:
The Saudis are sportswashing. The fans (not all) who shout down arguments about the regime with "what about uber, you're just as bad" are doing the exact same job that the Saudi state created their twitter troll farm for. To shout down, dilute and disrupt discussion or criticism. The ones with Saudi flags in avatars, or who bring Saudi flags to games, wear Saudi dress etc are helping to legitimise them, it's showing that they (and by extension their actions) are tolerated in a liberal city. If you're a fan who just watches their club, doesn't stick up for or promote the Saudi regime, and doesn't get involved in whataboutery then I've got no axe to grind (pardon the choice of phrase). If people do want to discuss or protest about the Saudis blatantly buying a football club to help sportswash their image then it shouldn't be derailed by legions of Newcastle supporters. I'm not attacking normal mags who probably dislike the Saudi regime, aren't on social media defending it but who are still going to go and watch their club, I'd do the same. I wouldn't want the Saudi regime owning safc but I'd be fucked if I was going to let them take my club from me.
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The Saudi prince to his murder regime: "Hey you guys, how have you got on with the sportswashing shit? Did you manage to find a football club that have fans that would be thick enough to wear tea towels on their heads and embrace our atrocities with fun?"

Saudi Murder regime: ""Guv, we have done very extensive research around the world, using all of our intelligence and resources but the only one we could find was a club called NUFC"

Saudi prince: "Ah thanks for the infomation, so I see they punch horses, shout at shops, struggle to spell and find taking coffins into their grounds acceptable, they'll do for me bonny lads, get the blood money out and get a crack on with it"
 
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samaistonsrightfoot said:
Saw one glue his hand to a police van last week. Making everyone in the country hate you is a bizarre way to go about getting something you want.
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Couple of weeks ago my mate tried to drive to work (a hospital) and encountered the eco mob on the road. She was due into work at 9am and eventually arrived at 2pm.
 
Great quote from Simon Reeve on the bbc website re the Lakes but he could have written it about that lot up the road.

"'What the hell would Brits say today if they were called up to fight the Nazis?' he added. 'I really wonder whether we've been so brainwashed by individualism and "because you're worth it" that we'd say, "Well, not bloody me"
 
mackem35 said:
Great quote from Simon Reeve on the bbc website re the Lakes but he could have written it about that lot up the road.

"'What the hell would Brits say today if they were called up to fight the Nazis?' he added. 'I really wonder whether we've been so brainwashed by individualism and "because you're worth it" that we'd say, "Well, not bloody me"
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He's not wrong all Hitler would of had to do was buy the mags and there's army of idiots.
 
The Man The Legend said:
I wouldn’t want the PIF or anything similar anywhere near us but I would be reluctant to take lectures from Richard Jobson. I bought Days in Europa when it came out and the Aryan/Nazi imagery stank then as much as it does now.
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Then you clearly don’t know much about Richard Jobson’s views or politics.
 
BigPete said:
Loads of them knackers doing it down south one glued his face to the ground.

I'd have pulled his pants down and let a dog bum him.

Punishment fits the crime and he wouldn't do it again.

Just when you thought mags couldn't get worse..

Sportswashed mags and the whataboot brigade comes to town :lol
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Dog bum him

Laughing here like
 
In answer to my point that as PIF owns 80% of NUFC and therefore they OWN the club you wrote:

Nukehasslefan said:
No. It makes them part owners. But you can argue 1005 owners if you wish. It's all still down to percentages.
Arguing a lesser percentage in something keeps morals higher is basically not an argument.
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This is pedantry at it’s worst and you know it.
It shows you to be what you are….a twister of basic facts.

A scenario for you:
The Slime Brothers and Queen Mandy take exception to an edict from PIF as to club policy (a ridiculous scenario I know…as if Staveley would remove her snout from the gravy train, 🤣) and shout “hang on…we own 20% of this club…you must listen to us!”…..can you imagine the 80% stakeholders suddenly saying “yes, you are correct…we have no say on this…”
They wouldn’t…QED Owners of NUFC...and you know it.

I’m not going to put you on ignore, because you fascinate me.
It is like a lab experiment….just watching to see what you say next.
 
FatDrummer said:
In answer to my point that as PIF owns 80% of NUFC and therefore they OWN the club you wrote:



This is pedantry at it’s worst and you know it.
It shows you to be what you are….a twister of basic facts.

A scenario for you:
The Slime Brothers and Queen Mandy take exception to an edict from PIF as to club policy (a ridiculous scenario I know…as if Staveley would remove her snout from the gravy train, 🤣) and shout “hang on…we own 20% of this club…you must listen to us!”…..can you imagine the 80% stakeholders suddenly saying “yes, you are correct…we have no say on this…”
They wouldn’t…QED Owners of NUFC...and you know it.

I’m not going to put you on ignore, because you fascinate me.
It is like a lab experiment….just watching to see what you say next.
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Ask him about carbon arcs and space lasers
 
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