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gonzalo said:
I don't post much, but i've been a member of PF since 2014. I've seen a lot of your posts, and like quite a few posters, have seen you make enough bipartisan or well meaning posts to pick up that you seem like a canny person.

I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. Working at a secondary school, i've seen and had to reprimand bairns who think it's okay to wear a cloth on their head and say things like "Allahu Akbar" etc.; generalising an entire people. So you're right in saying it is an issue.

However, you've got to agree, that most of the complaints being made are legitimate regarding the PIF, and that most of the criticism directed at them is not racially grounded. I'll meet you halfway and say some of it definitely will be, though, that Palace banner is pretty blatant in regards to who it is talking about.

Is this the hill you really want to die on?
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Well they've taken the 30 pieces of Silver so the last line is quite appropriate.
 
The Mags are truely awful. They always seem happy to give it out but run off to tell if it's given back.

Let's not forget that despite their constant vile chanting, they rang the police when Sunderland were chanting about Steven Taylor.
Or how they lie in wait on derby days in Newcastle to harass and pick off small groups of Sunderland fans, but are on the phone to the Old Bill if they get chased back inside a pub. Shithouses.

Can the police not investigate Newcastle's owners?
 
From the guardian today. Looks like management may not be prepared for the shitstorm coming their way. Already don’t know how to handle the most obvious first step of project black&whitewash, an ignorance for cultural sensitivity by the nay-shun...

It seems ridiculous to say but clearly all the money in the world and no one was capable of seeing the most obvious problems right in front of them.

It’s gunna be a a cracking day out next time we visit St James. Forget riots in the streets they’re gunna call for a jihad again Sunderland and all jump on the metro with towels on their heeds.....


“”””Newcastle released a statement during the first half of the match at Palace, backtracking on the request earlier in the week for supporters not to wear head coverings in tribute to their new owners, adding: “Those who wish to support the club by wearing appropriate culturally inspired clothing should feel free to do so as they see fit. We are inclusive to all.”
 
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mag in peace said:
I'm not sportswashing anything FFS if you had read my comments at all, you would know I actively encouraged the protest, I suggested that all fans should pass the flags on they make to create a wall of protest.

My point is, that if it's not abundantly clear, it runs the risk of opening the criticism up to the wrong people. There is far too much racial tension in this country as it is, we do not need to give an excuse for anyone caught doing so. The example I gave was a post on this very forum in which already a person was saying things like 'i f***ing hate arabs' (paraphrasing, I'm sure it was worse and it was removed).

Target the fella directly. Name him. Ensure its without any questionable doubt. That's all I was trying to get at.

I've got shit to do today and won't be around to respond but will try to later.

You lot harped on as if we were talking absolute bollocks and the EPL wasn't corrupt and as soon as it was passed it is... It's easy this game. Pick up the baton yourselves. I will have no issue with holdih the PL to account.
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PL block takeover = bad corruption
PL allows takeover = good corruption "wuh got oor clerb back"
 
At the risk of being political, we've created a situation in this country where any expression of discontent on one parties side will cause offence on the others and, as such, get investigated, discouraged or often just shouted down regardless of fact.

The new owners of Palaces opposition yesterday WILL consider the banner to be to their detriment so all they need to do is cry foul (and racism is any easy one to use here) and our ultra-liberal police force will be forced to give the matter their attention.

It wouldn't surprise me if the instigators of the banner end up having a 'quiet word' being said to them - maybe under the threat of being charged of creating a disturbance or some such (there's always some vague charge that can be thrown at them if the coppers decide they can't be arsed with the whole thing and it's easier to tell the plebs to pipe down).

Remember - PIF have A LOT of money and, in this country, money talks.... much louder than anything else.
 
wigwams said:
That must be the racist bit

They harped on about the premier league being corrupt. Passing the takeover in a few minutes despite all evidence suggesting it shouldn’t go ahead is the most corrupt thing they’ve done.
Eerie silence on the corruption front from the mags since
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Though to be fair, the PL initially refused the take over on the grounds that the regime willfully turned a blind eye to the prem league's product being pirated into its shores from Qatar via the Bein signal.
The prem league was right in that case. This fit and proper test has never come into it. Even though the PL were within their rights to put the brakes on.

The mags outcry about corruption was unfounded and most would have known but they were happy for it to be used as a pretext to keep the pressure on.

Back to the PL it was all about guaranteeing a new market.
The moment that became a reality with the Saudis taking on rights' licence the PL gave the green light. All about getting their cut.

Looking at PL's rules...

Section F in 20-21 premier league handbook....

'' (Disqualification occurs) in the reasonable opinion of the Board, he/she has engaged in conduct
outside the United Kingdom that would constitute an offence of the sort described in Rules F.1.7.2 or F.1.7.3, if such conduct had taken place in the United Kingdom, whether or not such conduct resulted in a Conviction;"

They've broken their rules though in passing the deal...

" F.1.7.2. in respect of any offence involving any act which could
reasonably be considered to be dishonest (and, for the avoidance of doubt, irrespective of the actual sentence imposed)"

You're right, not a squeak though from the mags even though every team should be up in arms not just the our. A blight on an existing stain
 
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CEF said:
The Mags are truely awful. They always seem happy to give it out but run off to tell if it's given back.

Let's not forget that despite their constant vile chanting, they rang the police when Sunderland were chanting about Steven Taylor.
Or how they lie in wait on derby days in Newcastle to harass and pick off small groups of Sunderland fans, but are on the phone to the Old Bill if they get chased back inside a pub. Shithouses.

Can the police not investigate Newcastle's owners?
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Mags have always been two faced snidy back stabbers
You should try working with them
 
Mackem2017 said:
Newcastle fans;
Mike Ashley is a tyrant for enforcing zero hour contracts, we must protest and bring this to parliament. How can the premier league allow a man like this to own a football club. It’s our responsibility as football fans to make a stand for human rights.
Also Newcastle fans:
Whoa whoa our trillioniare owner chopping journalists is nothing to do with us we are just football fans. Fk amnesty international you’re just jealous of our money. We are the richest club in the worl… I mean transparency, erm just happy the windows have had a wash, we just want a club that tries. Disney, Starbucks, Twitter, erm petrol
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Bingo.. no arguing with that.
 
There will be no further action regarding this banner. The police are duty bound to investigate a report made to them but at the end of the day , nothing said on the banner is untrue and if you prosecute the Palace fans we are going have to prosecute the UN who confirmed the allegations to be true . As long as you aim all critisism at the Saudi Government and not the Saudi people , there would be very little chance of being prosecuted for racism .
The flag should be passed on to the supporters of every team who are playing Newcastle.
 
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