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I may have missed it (and apologies if I have) but have any of the jordie nation fans who come on OUR forum openly
said they will not go to Sid James while the murderous regime is in place? Despite all their rhetoric I have yet to see one.
 

The posts today encapsulate my thoughts from the outset, if this was anything remotely like Man City, a plan would already be in place and Bruce would have gone within a matter of hours. Perhaps they are reluctant to part with 8 million to sack him?. If Wayne Rooney is in their top 30 managerial targets, then they are in trouble.
 
0321safc said:
The posts today encapsulate my thoughts from the outset, if this was anything remotely like Man City, a plan would already be in place and Bruce would have gone within a matter of hours. Perhaps they are reluctant to part with 8 million to sack him?. If Wayne Rooney is in their top 30 managerial targets, then they are in trouble.
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Man City didn't sack Mark Hughes for over 15 months after their takeover.
 
Sons of The Wear said:
Aye sitting in luxury hotels and restaurants, not in a shitty little Moscow flat with a family on crap money in a generally miserable country, run by a dictator.

Neville is a pseudo intellectual without any real knowledge once he starts getting into politics and ethics.

Also knows how to cover his own arse so his paymasters won’t question him.

An irony being just hours after a UK politician was stabbed to death in his own office by another radical nut job with Middle East political leanings. FFS man, stop being so thick.
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He’s just a thinking mans Joey Barton!
 
Get Into Em said:
Man City didn't sack Mark Hughes for over 15 months after their takeover.
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He was regarded as decent manager at the time though, not hated by the fanbase, and didn’t precide over a terrible record like 7 wins in last 38 games. In 2008 City couldn’t really get better than him in terms of his pedigree at the time, Bruce is a very low ceiling and yet 11 days later he’s still there.
 
Roker Mackem said:
These lot were super entertainment before but now its going to ramp up to Las Vegas levels
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Indeed maybe even Disneyworld levels
Blyth said:
He was the fucker bowing down to the Saudi’s when Wilson scored
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Noticed that on motd2 makes you sick and yet not unexpected
0321safc said:
The posts today encapsulate my thoughts from the outset, if this was anything remotely like Man City, a plan would already be in place and Bruce would have gone within a matter of hours. Perhaps they are reluctant to part with 8 million to sack him?. If Wayne Rooney is in their top 30 managerial targets, then they are in trouble.
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It seems to me like they are desperate to have any other football manager just to be rid of Bruce in tbe same way theyve celebrated getting Ashley out..well if thats anything to go by its going to to go tits up big style ..there isnt enough popcorn for this one im afraid
 
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gipetto said:
Ashley made money, did he make you successful Biffo?
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I would like to think that, given the money they will be looking to make, they will be looking for more.
That said none of us actually know their plans or what they hope to achieve.
Do i see Newcastle spending 100-200 million in January and/or summer.... Probably not.
Also i probably have different ideas about what is success. Some will say Top 6, then Champions League and/or competing to win the league. I do not see that as being realistic unless they spend, to the hilt, for years and years.
I would say success in Top 10 consistently, and a Cup Win in the next 4-5 years, is success. Only 1 team can win the league. Only 4 can realistically qualify for Champions League. Doing either would mean bettering Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Leicester. All are miles ahead of us and will not stand still whilst we invest. Add to that Spurs, West Ham, Everton & Villa. All of whom are significantly ahead of us and the picture of what is realistically achievable in the next decade and what should be a real measure of success becomes very obvious...... to me anyway.
 
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I would say success in Top 10 consistently, and a Cup Win in the next 4-5 years, is success. Only 1 team can win the league. Only 4 can realistically qualify for Champions League. Doing either would mean bettering Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United and Leicester. All are miles ahead of us and will not stand still whilst we invest. Add to that Spurs, West Ham, Everton & Villa. All of whom are significantly ahead of us and the picture of what is realistically achievable in the next decade and what should be a real measure of success becomes very obvious...... to me anyway.
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I'd agree with that. Under any other owners I think most Newcastle fans would say the same. But I think there are some (very vocal) fans who have it in their heads that this is "their moment" and the money is about to come flooding in and trips to Europe in a year or two. I think they are going to be disappointed frankly.

January will be huge. I think you have 10 games till the transfer window opens. If you are deep in the relegation zone when that happens, you will struggle to get the players you need (and you need a few!), and if you go down, the mood will turn on the ownership I suspect for "not investing in January". A season in the Championship puts the project back a year. I think you will stop up, buts not a given thanks to the start you have made.

What happens then is anyones guess? I'd expect money to be made available to get you back up, but if the Saudi's have invested for "sportswashing" thats going to be harder to do in the Championship, with a year of much reduced publicity and TV exposure. If they've invested for financial returns, they wont be throwing money at it, which is where the managerial appointments and scouting network will come into it. We don't know the motives, we dont know who controls the money or the budgets involved.
 
Redandwhitedust said:
I'd agree with that. Under any other owners I think most Newcastle fans would say the same. But I think there are some (very vocal) fans who have it in their heads that this is "their moment" and the money is about to come flooding in and trips to Europe in a year or two. I think they are going to be disappointed frankly.

January will be huge. I think you have 10 games till the transfer window opens. If you are deep in the relegation zone when that happens, you will struggle to get the players you need (and you need a few!), and if you go down, the mood will turn on the ownership I suspect for "not investing in January". A season in the Championship puts the project back a year. I think you will stop up, buts not a given thanks to the start you have made.

What happens then is anyones guess? I'd expect money to be made available to get you back up, but if the Saudi's have invested for "sportswashing" thats going to be harder to do in the Championship, with a year of much reduced publicity and TV exposure. If they've invested for financial returns, they wont be throwing money at it, which is where the managerial appointments and scouting network will come into it. We don't know the motives, we dont know who controls the money or the budgets involved.
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If the Guardian is right a lot of plans will will just that plans
 
Biffo The Bear said:
I have not commented post game?
What I would say is that several, from a hundred, points to a very small percentage which is what I would have expected. Most of the images I saw yesterday were of the same 2 muppets.
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Yeah, a few from a 100.
I'd say about 3 or 4%
So out of 50000 of you = about 1500 to 2000, which is probably about right.
I've said before, let's see if you can find a photo of any city or psg fan in sheikh fancy dress.
 
genewolf said:
Just googled Neom. WTF?

Murdering Bedouins to clear them so you can build a futuristic city filled with sex robots, flying cars and a fake moon.

That all looks reasonable and not at all like the plan of an insane Bond villain.
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A city that is a straight line and 40 miles long with no roads. Like it or not the next generation will want to holiday there. Buying nufc I'd all part of the softening to Saudi marketing campaign. It started with boxing. Very glad they didnt buy us. It will make nufc a global entity and in 40 years when people regularly visit Saudi like they do Dubai nobody will remember the controversy right now.
 
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Left For Dead said:
A city that is a straight line and 40 miles long with no roads. Like it or not the next generation will want to holiday there. Buying nufc I'd all part of the softening to Saudi marketing campaign. It started with boxing. Very glad they didnt buy us. It will make nufc a global entity and in 40 years when people regularly visit Saudi like they do Dubai nobody will remember the controversy right now.
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Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
 
mag in peace said:
Nobody was against selling it, Ashley did it for free to show how attractive it could be whilst using sports direct for free as it's demo. It was another in the long line of examples here he took up advertising space and paid fuck all for it.

Nobody was against selling it, Ashley did it for free to show how attractive it could be whilst using sports direct for free as it's demo. It was another in the long line of examples here he took up advertising space and paid fuck all for it.
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He owned the club ya melt. I own my house and don't need to ask anyone what wallpaper or pictures I am allowed to put on the walls.
 
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