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The Fish said:
Fair point, but aren't the states of Qatar and UAE enjoying the reflected glory from their indirect association with PSG and Man City?
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not sure what that has to do with anything. they presumably put up the directors for whatever tests they needed to and passed, so they were allowed to buy them. not even sure if there's an equivalent test in france.
and man city were bought in 2008. the tests change over time, at one point they didnt even exist. the taliban could probably have bought them.
 
PaddySAFC97 said:
He put Steve Wraith and Amanda Staveley in their places.

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Did he? Sounds to me like he shouted over them and tried to land gotcha questions. It's f***ing talksport man. If you're after reasoned debate and considered opinions, you'd avoid it like the plague. It's entire existence is based on saying something controversial to make sure people phone up.

Same as Savage and Sutton on BBC.

fwiw Wraith is a bellend
Squat said:
not sure what that has to do with anything. they presumably put up the directors for whatever tests they needed to and passed, so they were allowed to buy them. not even sure if there's an equivalent test in france.
and man city were bought in 2008. the tests change over time, at one point they didnt even exist. the taliban could probably have bought them.
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The point was just that for all Man City and PSG aren't owned by the Qatari and UAE states, both of those countries have benefited from the association.

If KSA wanted to sportswash (which is the overwhelmingly dominant reason they're interested) they could get the benefit with a purchase vehicle, and don't need the sovereign wealth fund to directly own the club.
 
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The Fish said:
That's the crux of the issue, Saudi law states that PIF and the state are separate legal entities. But everyone knows they're not. PL offered arbitration way back when, but that wasn't taken up (if they are obviously separate, why not?). If NUFC was a bigger deal for them KSA may have created a purchase vehicle that was sufficiently distinct, but we're not, so they didn't.

If PIF, or some purchase vehicle is found to be distinct from the state, the piracy issue can't be levelled at them.

End of the day, all of this shit should have been foreseen by Staveley et al. and either addressed or avoided.

Simon Jordan is a wind up merchant on talkSport ffs, if it got morons calling their premium rate line he'd insist the Earth is flat. He knows fuck all.
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He knows how to rinse Wraith & Mandy and make them look like fools. For one, I agree with him. He's not far wrong most of the time Fish Face
 
Mackem2017 said:
Love Simon Jordan 😂

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‘This idea that Newcastle is going to get bought by this PIF fund, this is deader than a dead thing from dead land,” Jordan said. ‘
That’ll do for me

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Looks like the Saudi's have dodged a bullet with this one 🤭
 
Exile 1968 said:
He knows how to rinse Wraith & Mandy and make them look like fools. For one, I agree with him. He's not far wrong most of the time Fish Face
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He is wrong most of the time, to be honest. If it was more controversial to be supportive of the takeover, he'd have taken that position. His 'logic' is flawed, because he doesn't believe half the shit he says. This is backed up by how often he moves the goal posts.

He's fulfilling his remit though, barracking 'guests' with quickfire gotcha questions to make them appear foolish and flustered. Like with the Staveley piece, he has zero interest in getting actual insight, he just wants to make her look silly. Good radio for their listeners though.

Wraith deserves every ounce of embarrassment and criticism coming his way.
 
Squat said:
not sure what that has to do with anything. they presumably put up the directors for whatever tests they needed to and passed, so they were allowed to buy them. not even sure if there's an equivalent test in france.
and man city were bought in 2008. the tests change over time, at one point they didnt even exist. the taliban could probably have bought them.
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They'd welcome them with open Arms (pardon the pun)
The Fish said:
He is wrong most of the time, to be honest. If it was more controversial to be supportive of the takeover, he'd have taken that position. His 'logic' is flawed, because he doesn't believe half the shit he says. This is backed up by how often he moves the goal posts.

He's fulfilling his remit though, barracking 'guests' with quickfire gotcha questions to make them appear foolish and flustered. Like with the Staveley piece, he has zero interest in getting actual insight, he just wants to make her look silly. Good radio for their listeners though.

Wraith deserves every ounce of embarrassment and criticism coming his way.
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Hes against it because It's not more controversial to want to be taken over by a bunch of murdering terrorists?

Have a word with yourself man. I love Talksport. Brazil & Jordan are brilliant. Every one who goes on defending the Desspots gets crucified.
 
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The Fish said:
He is wrong most of the time, to be honest. If it was more controversial to be supportive of the takeover, he'd have taken that position. His 'logic' is flawed, because he doesn't believe half the shit he says. This is backed up by how often he moves the goal posts.

He's fulfilling his remit though, barracking 'guests' with quickfire gotcha questions to make them appear foolish and flustered. Like with the Staveley piece, he has zero interest in getting actual insight, he just wants to make her look silly. Good radio for their listeners though.

Wraith deserves every ounce of embarrassment and criticism coming his way.
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Go bother a cat.
 
Quote from the Mag. This lad is spot on about Jordan & the Saudis


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He's right. The consortium and St James Holdings are trying to get their money back. Allegedly a deposit was paid to NUFC/ St James Holdings, but it may have been conditional upon success. I don't beliève that this lot are interested in NUFC. They are interested in money,money,money. Why would the Saudis sustain their interest in a scenario which has caused so much hassle. Similarly I doubt if it can be demonstrated that the Saudi state was not involved. Like many I am not comfortable with this consortium anyway. If it is successful I can see nothing but problems ahead and no guarantee of riches being poured into the club. The takeover is 99% political - yet another party using the club as a platform for non-football reasons, which every owner of NUFC in my long lifetime has done before""
 
Exile 1968 said:
Quote from the Mag. This lad is spot on about Jordan & the Saudis


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He's right. The consortium and St James Holdings are trying to get their money back. Allegedly a deposit was paid to NUFC/ St James Holdings, but it may have been conditional upon success. I don't beliève that this lot are interested in NUFC. They are interested in money,money,money. Why would the Saudis sustain their interest in a scenario which has caused so much hassle. Similarly I doubt if it can be demonstrated that the Saudi state was not involved. Like many I am not comfortable with this consortium anyway. If it is successful I can see nothing but problems ahead and no guarantee of riches being poured into the club. The takeover is 99% political - yet another party using the club as a platform for non-football reasons, which every owner of NUFC in my long lifetime has done before""
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He'll be hunted down and shouted at this lad through his sitting room window
 
The Fish said:
That's the crux of the issue, Saudi law states that PIF and the state are separate legal entities. But everyone knows they're not. PL offered arbitration way back when, but that wasn't taken up (if they are obviously separate, why not?). If NUFC was a bigger deal for them KSA may have created a purchase vehicle that was sufficiently distinct, but we're not, so they didn't.

If PIF, or some purchase vehicle is found to be distinct from the state, the piracy issue can't be levelled at them.

End of the day, all of this shit should have been foreseen by Staveley et al. and either addressed or avoided.

Simon Jordan is a wind up merchant on talkSport ffs, if it got morons calling their premium rate line he'd insist the Earth is flat. He knows fuck all.
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Absolutely gutted and still living in denial. Go and buy your cat some treats if you’re still not banned from co-op.
 
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