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The Hundred - Free tickets

I’ll say it again, just for fun

1) counties have been shafted. Large parts of the country have no access to this
2) 6 ball overs is part of cricket (I know not always the case), it’s needlessly tinkering
3) you want it on tv? Market the blast! Pour money into it like they have here
4) the one good thing is the impact on women’s cricket

4a) I’m not willing to lose county cricket on the basis the women’s game gets a bit of a lift.
 

Female presenter on sky darts just got the team names wrong when advertising the game for tomorrow. They are pushing this too much
Cricket crowds at the moment remind of darts crowds tbh. Singing the same shite songs over and over again at every single ground, nowt to do with the cricket, not even watching it. Really bugging me. Sure it didn’t used to be as bad before the year without crowds
 
Let’s stick to cricket mate😁

Seriously despite our differences of opinions, it’s obvious you a massive cricket fan.

So I genuinely hope you enjoy the rest of the season and hope Durham go well

Genuine question for you here, seriously.

People who follow cricket, are we expected to pretend that this is any good? I'm not going to bash it too much because it's just T20 with 5 ball overs and infinite hype. It's no better or worse than the IPL, BBL, CPL, PPL or any of the other franchise leagues, or than the Blast was when it was a condensed tournament. Probably worse than the Blast actually, given the cut in the number of teams.

I've heard your arguments that any coverage is good coverage, and I'm fully aware that you're happy to sacrifice county cricket, but put that aside and a simple question: What are we supposed to get behind here? What are we buying here other than just another short format tournament?

Genuinely can't figure it out.
 
I’ll say it again, just for fun

1) counties have been shafted. Large parts of the country have no access to this
2) 6 ball overs is part of cricket (I know not always the case), it’s needlessly tinkering
3) you want it on tv? Market the blast! Pour money into it like they have here
4) the one good thing is the impact on women’s cricket

Boom, nailed it
4a) I’m not willing to lose county cricket on the basis the women’s game gets a bit of a lift.
It doesn't need to be either/or!

Did anyone hear the woman on Sky trying to explain why the manufactured teams were better than the Blast, because there's fewer teams so no Northern and Southern split? Appalling.
 
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From the BBC coverage:

During the match England all-rounder, and Northern Superchargers captain, Ben Stokes "what an horrific wicket at Old Trafford".

Used pitches tend to be slower in nature, allowing for more spin, which makes strokeplay and timing the ball more difficult for batters, in turn leading to low-scoring matches.

"Is that what we want to see in The Hundred?", asked BBC radio commentator Stephan Shemilt.

"That was terrific entertainment and great skill from Matt Parkinson, but is this what this competition wants?

"Do we want to see raging turning pitches where a side struggles to get to 87?"


Setting aside that the person running Stokes' twitter has made a bit of boo boo, the whole context around the above is horrific. So we don't want to give the bowlers anything now do we not? Is it purely a case of watching hired gun player X smash hapless bowler Y into the stands, just as they did in Sydney, Bridgetown, Karachi, Durban and Dehli?
 
From the BBC coverage:

During the match England all-rounder, and Northern Superchargers captain, Ben Stokes "what an horrific wicket at Old Trafford".

Used pitches tend to be slower in nature, allowing for more spin, which makes strokeplay and timing the ball more difficult for batters, in turn leading to low-scoring matches.

"Is that what we want to see in The Hundred?", asked BBC radio commentator Stephan Shemilt.

"That was terrific entertainment and great skill from Matt Parkinson, but is this what this competition wants?

"Do we want to see raging turning pitches where a side struggles to get to 87?"


Setting aside that the person running Stokes' twitter has made a bit of boo boo, the whole context around the above is horrific. So we don't want to give the bowlers anything now do we not? Is it purely a case of watching hired gun player X smash hapless bowler Y into the stands, just as they did in Sydney, Bridgetown, Karachi, Durban and Dehli?

Totally agree. Watching Parkinson tie them in knots will have been one of the most exciting passages of this comp I assume.

But others in power seem to think that unless it’s someone slapping it over a 55 yard boundary it’s not exciting.
 
I wasn’t suggesting we should. I think that women’s cricket could have got a lift with the blast too

I know marra, just felt it worthy of mention.
So we don't want to give the bowlers anything now do we not?

No.

Well, not me, ‘them’. The ones with no interest in cricket, y’knar all them new targets. I don’t consider myself ‘we’, but I’m sure you know what I mean.
 
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Genuine question for you here, seriously.

People who follow cricket, are we expected to pretend that this is any good? I'm not going to bash it too much because it's just T20 with 5 ball overs and infinite hype. It's no better or worse than the IPL, BBL, CPL, PPL or any of the other franchise leagues, or than the Blast was when it was a condensed tournament. Probably worse than the Blast actually, given the cut in the number of teams.

I've heard your arguments that any coverage is good coverage, and I'm fully aware that you're happy to sacrifice county cricket, but put that aside and a simple question: What are we supposed to get behind here? What are we buying here other than just another short format tournament?

Genuinely can't figure it out.
It is pretty straightforward for me, I love attacking cricket always have before T20 was even invented.

Once T20 started I have really enjoyed it and think the standard of attacking cricket as improved massively players can now play 360 degrees round the wicket, bowlers have developed excellent slower balls, Yorkers etc and fielding wow! , standard is immense.

Despite massive opposition when it was introduced by traditional cricket fans it is now externally popular and has undoubtedly helped the game financially.

Of course as I have said many times on this subject there was no need to change a winning formula and any new competition if one was even needed should have stayed as T20, don’t think one person on this board thinks otherwise.

However having said that as others have pointed out, ‘the hundred’ is very similar to T20, therefore it stands to reason for me if you like T20 you going to like ‘The Hundred’

I love T20 so I am certainly not going to suddenly find a angle to dislike something that is practically to same! as of course I am going to like it as imagine other people who like T20 do.

It’s easier for me because I am not invested or supporting a county to support a competition that promotes cricket more, gets it on the tv in to peoples homes and hopefully gets more kids playing the game.

Imo more kids need to be taking up the game rather playing on their PlayStation’s and if this competition has a chance to do that (even though preferred option was to stay at T20) then yes I will support it.

I certainly do want I to fall flat on its face where all that money will be wasted and less people involved in the game.
And by the way not at any point and any time said happy to sacrifice county cricket, I have said that just that new participation at club cricket is my main concern
 
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It is pretty straightforward for me, I love attacking cricket always have before T20 was even invented.

Once T20 started I have really enjoyed it and think the standard of attacking cricket as improved massively players can now play 360 degrees round the wicket, bowlers have developed excellent slower balls, Yorkers etc and fielding wow! , standard is immense.

Despite massive opposition when it was introduced by traditional cricket fans it is now externally popular and has undoubtedly helped the game financially.

Of course as I have said many times on this subject there was no need to change a winning formula and any new competition if one was even needed should have stayed as T20, don’t think one person on this board thinks otherwise.

However having said that as others have pointed out, ‘the hundred’ is very similar to T20, therefore it stands to reason for me if you like T20 you going to like ‘The Hundred’

I love T20 so I am certainly not going to suddenly find a angle to dislike something that is practically to same! as of course I am going to like it as imagine other people who like T20 do.

It’s easier for me because I am not invested or supporting a county to support a competition that promotes cricket more, gets it on the tv in to peoples homes and hopefully gets more kids playing the game.

Imo more kids need to be taking up the game rather playing on their PlayStation’s and if this competition has a chance to do that (even though preferred option was to stay at T20) then yes I will support it.

I certainly do want I to fall flat on its face where all that money will be wasted and less people involved in the game.
And by the way not at any point and any time said happy to sacrifice county cricket, I have said that just that new participation at club cricket is my main concern
Then we need a good cricket video game series more than we need The Hundred. Before anyone says anything, Cricket ‘19 is shite.
 
From the BBC coverage:

During the match England all-rounder, and Northern Superchargers captain, Ben Stokes "what an horrific wicket at Old Trafford".

Used pitches tend to be slower in nature, allowing for more spin, which makes strokeplay and timing the ball more difficult for batters, in turn leading to low-scoring matches.

"Is that what we want to see in The Hundred?", asked BBC radio commentator Stephan Shemilt.

"That was terrific entertainment and great skill from Matt Parkinson, but is this what this competition wants?

"Do we want to see raging turning pitches where a side struggles to get to 87?"


Setting aside that the person running Stokes' twitter has made a bit of boo boo, the whole context around the above is horrific. So we don't want to give the bowlers anything now do we not? Is it purely a case of watching hired gun player X smash hapless bowler Y into the stands, just as they did in Sydney, Bridgetown, Karachi, Durban and Dehli?
The pitch was a shocker to be fair, it was like a day 4 pitch on the subcontinent. It made a Notts 2nd team leg spinner look like Anil Kumble.

That would've been a poor pitch to play on be it The Hundred, The Hundred and Twenty or The Three Hundred.
 
It is pretty straightforward for me, I love attacking cricket always have before T20 was even invented.

Once T20 started I have really enjoyed it and think the standard of attacking cricket as improved massively players can now play 360 degrees round the wicket, bowlers have developed excellent slower balls, Yorkers etc and fielding wow! , standard is immense.

Despite massive opposition when it was introduced by traditional cricket fans it is now externally popular and has undoubtedly helped the game financially.

Of course as I have said many times on this subject there was no need to change a winning formula and any new competition if one was even needed should have stayed as T20, don’t think one person on this board thinks otherwise.

However having said that as others have pointed out, ‘the hundred’ is very similar to T20, therefore it stands to reason for me if you like T20 you going to like ‘The Hundred’

I love T20 so I am certainly not going to suddenly find a angle to dislike something that is practically to same! as of course I am going to like it as imagine other people who like T20 do.

It’s easier for me because I am not invested or supporting a county to support a competition that promotes cricket more, gets it on the tv in to peoples homes and hopefully gets more kids playing the game.

Imo more kids need to be taking up the game rather playing on their PlayStation’s and if this competition has a chance to do that (even though preferred option was to stay at T20) then yes I will support it.

I certainly do want I to fall flat on its face where all that money will be wasted and less people involved in the game.
And by the way not at any point and any time said happy to sacrifice county cricket, I have said that just that new participation at club cricket is my main concern
We've had this speech from you before! I don't want to go round in circles.

So the answer is that there's nothing new, as you say, it's just T20 with 5 ball overs. Right, fine. All the hype, all the slogans 'this is new!' 'every ball counts!' etc etc, it's all bollocks. I suspected as much.

You may not have said you are happy to sacrifice county cricket, but you are. We've already sacrificed 10/18. The whole point of this tournament is to sacrifice county cricket. Sorry like, you can stick your head in the sand if you like, its not going to change what's happening.

Sacrificing so much for less of the same, heartbreaking.

As for the standard, seems OK. I watched thick edge that went 180 degrees away from where it was supposed to go be described as a fabulous shot by the commentators. That's one of the most scary things for me, having terrible cricket called magnificent. Awful. Hopefully, you can't fool all of the people all if time.
The pitch was a shocker to be fair, it was like a day 4 pitch on the subcontinent. It made a Notts 2nd team leg spinner look like Anil Kumble.

That would've been a poor pitch to play on be it The Hundred, The Hundred and Twenty or The Three Hundred.
Commentators actively criticising low scoring games, its wrong on every level. Wickets are sometimes poor, it's cricket. Get on with it.

I wonder how long it will be before they play on rubber mats with a nice and even tennis ball bounce that average players can smash out the of the ground. 100 times out of 100 if possible.
 
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Totally agree. Watching Parkinson tie them in knots will have been one of the most exciting passages of this comp I assume.

But others in power seem to think that unless it’s someone slapping it over a 55 yard boundary it’s not exciting.

One of the advertising slogans is EVERY BALL COUNTS which suggests they are looking for a slogfest and each ball needs to go the journey.

Yesterday's game was not one of them and so it would immediately not appeal to the new fan, but to the cricket connisseurs. Bit of an own goal from the OT groundsman to reuse a week old pitch.

I haven't watched the BBC coverage, but the Sky commentary seems to forget the 'new fan' element and pour out the old cricket cliche's. If it's a new audience they are aiming at (or is that just marketing shite) then they need to explain the basics until the viewers become familiar with the game.

Having sat through 3 games, the only difference between this and T20 is that the quality is supposedly higher due to there being only 8 teams. Having said that, I don't think the quality is any better. Lots of average county players plying their trade
 
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We've had this speech from you before! I don't want to go round in circles.

So the answer is that there's nothing new, as you say, it's just T20 with 5 ball overs. Right, fine. All the hype, all the slogans 'this is new!' 'every ball counts!' etc etc, it's all bollocks. I suspected as much.

You may not have said you are happy to sacrifice county cricket, but you are. We've already sacrificed 10/18. The whole point of this tournament is to sacrifice county cricket. Sorry like, you can stick your head in the sand if you like, its not going to change what's happening.

Sacrificing so much for less of the same, heartbreaking.
Post. Absolutely heartbreaking.
 
We've had this speech from you before! I don't want to go round in circles.

So the answer is that there's nothing new, as you say, it's just T20 with 5 ball overs. Right, fine. All the hype, all the slogans 'this is new!' 'every ball counts!' etc etc, it's all bollocks. I suspected as much.

You may not have said you are happy to sacrifice county cricket, but you are. We've already sacrificed 10/18. The whole point of this tournament is to sacrifice county cricket. Sorry like, you can stick your head in the sand if you like, its not going to change what's happening.

Sacrificing so much for less of the same, heartbreaking.

As for the standard, seems OK. I watched thick edge that went 180 degrees away from where it was supposed to go be described as a fabulous shot by the commentators. That's one of the most scary things for me, having terrible cricket called magnificent. Awful. Hopefully, you can't fool all of the people all if time.

Commentators actively criticising low scoring games, its wrong on every level. Wickets are sometimes poor, it's cricket. Get on with it.

I wonder how long it will be before they play on rubber mats with a nice and even tennis ball bounce that average players can smash out the of the ground. 100 times out of 100 if possible.
There is no doubt watching the IPL as I have the cricket is a fantastic standard and hopefully in future years we can also bring the stars they have to our game.

While you are dead right the hundred is the same as T20, what the shorter form as done imo is enhance and develop the skills of already top class cricketers.

Some of the skills and quality on show in T20 now which hopefully will translate to the hundred is simply fantastic, new highly skillful shots developed, bowling and fielding skills to a new level and yes sometimes the commentators go over the top and enjoy themselves and have fun how terrible is that!
 
There is no doubt watching the IPL as I have the cricket is a fantastic standard and hopefully in future years we can also bring the stars they have to our game.

While you are dead right the hundred is the same as T20, what the shorter form as done imo is enhance and develop the skills of already top class cricketers.

Some of the skills and quality on show in T20 now which hopefully will translate to the hundred is simply fantastic, new highly skillful shots developed, bowling and fielding skills to a new level and yes sometimes the commentators go over the top and enjoy themselves and have fun how terrible is that!
But that's the point, there's nothing new abut this sham. There was no need to take cricket away from half the population.

There's 'going over the top' and then there's rolling a turd in glitter. Dressing some of the crap served up and some kind of world class sport is just lying to people, even this fabled new audience. And the inability to spot empty seats in the stadiums is just f***ing weird.

Anyway. If The Oval lose a game will they have to chance their name? What happens when Manchester find out there's already a team at Old Trafford?
 
But that's the point, there's nothing new abut this sham. There was no need to take cricket away from half the population.

There's 'going over the top' and then there's rolling a turd in glitter. Dressing some of the crap served up and some kind of world class sport is just lying to people, even this fabled new audience. And the inability to spot empty seats in the stadiums is just f***ing weird.

Anyway. If The Oval lose a game will they have to chance their name? What happens when Manchester find out there's already a team at Old Trafford?
Well yeah we are going round in circles.

Can only repeat that I agree and always have that there was and is nothing wrong with T20 as not bigger fan of it than me.

So to make myself clear I agree there was no need to change a winning formula and also agree not much different

However once it has been changed to the hundred and very similar which both agree, I am not suddenly going to dislike it.

I am certainly not wanting something to fall on its face and all that money be wasted.

It’s happening rightly or wrongly and nothing wrong imo with enjoying it, promoting it and getting excited about it and making it fun and entertaining for people watching it.
 
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