F1 2021

[smasha]

This is certainly the case, for certain people every single one of his 98 wins has an excuse, best car/strategy call/opponent error, never just that he was the in the best team-driver combo that day.

Since the dawn of time in F1, the best drivers end up in the best cars, then proceed to show everyone why they're the best.

This season has shown why he’s a 7 time champion, some of his best racing has been over that’s 18 months. Turkey last year was incredible .

 

[cosmicchris00]

Well just finished watching the Spanish GP (I can't see a race in it's entirety. I must rely on the record button or online steaming of full races) and I must say I have never seen a hollower win in all my life.

I felt for Max. Lead the race the whole time and about 4 or 3 from the end Lewis right at the death overtakes to win purely because his tires had better longevity than Max's. Purely because Max's wasn't going to last the rest of the race. Has Lewis EVER fought other drivers for it or has he relied on his tires to give him it? Is that what all of his titles have been about? Pleeeeeaaaasssssseee!

Instead of the one big black round thing (circuit) F1 seems to be won and lost on the four small black round things (tires) and in the pits. That's where the action is. That's where the race is conducted. The entire time Ted and Mark were talking about the life of Max's tires or Lewis' tires and what they must do for them to win. Most of the excitement is based around waiting with baited breath wondering if one drivers's tires are going to last and whether or not his rival ought to do a one stop or a two stop.

However I am still glad I tuned in. On lap 59 or 60 I think it was there was a small group from Alonso to Russell in the middle who were together. That's when the race came alive for me.

OK I get it. In F1 tires and the various compounds and lifespan's are the best thing since the invention of the bread slicer. Can we please focus on actual racing now?

Team brilliance and ace driving from the top 3 all time driver won the race.

It was a masterclass in tyre strategy.

Watch the highlights from the start and you'll get the picture

 

[smasha]

Well just finished watching the Spanish GP (I can't see a race in it's entirety. I must rely on the record button or online steaming of full races) and I must say I have never seen a hollower win in all my life.

I felt for Max. Lead the race the whole time and about 4 or 3 from the end Lewis right at the death overtakes to win purely because his tires had better longevity than Max's. Purely because Max's wasn't going to last the rest of the race. Has Lewis EVER fought other drivers for it or has he relied on his tires to give him it? Is that what all of his titles have been about? Pleeeeeaaaasssssseee!

Instead of the one big black round thing (circuit) F1 seems to be won and lost on the four small black round things (tires) and in the pits. That's where the action is. That's where the race is conducted. The entire time Ted and Mark were talking about the life of Max's tires or Lewis' tires and what they must do for them to win. Most of the excitement is based around waiting with baited breath wondering if one drivers's tires are going to last and whether or not his rival ought to do a one stop or a two stop.

However I am still glad I tuned in. On lap 59 or 60 I think it was there was a small group from Alonso to Russell in the middle who were together. That's when the race came alive for me.

OK I get it. In F1 tires and the various compounds and lifespan's are the best thing since the invention of the bread slicer. Can we please focus on actual racing now?

its ironic that thing you loved with Alonso, that was due to his tyres running out trying to one stop

 

[cosmicchris00]

Lewis was just faster, and showed that being behind opens up all kinds of options.
Options that Red Bull have failed to take advantage of on many occasions.

Lewis was able to close 24seconds and then overtake. His tyres were only 12 laps newer, and he was hitting them 1s per lap harder than Max for 20 laps and still had enough to easily overtake.

If 2 stopping was so much faster, Max could have done it the lap after Lewis did. But they decided he wouldn't be able to keep the lead AND wouldn't be able to pass. Its not rocket science, Lewis was faster.

Sky did a top bottom split screen lap showing Rosberg and Hamilton steering action in about 2015

Their times were very similar.

Rosberg sawed at the wheel in nearly every corner whereas Hamilton drove round it like he was on his way to church.

The conclusion was that Hamiltons smoother approach was less testing on the tyres thereby giving greater longevity.

 

[errant]

This season has shown why he’s a 7 time champion, some of his best racing has been over that’s 18 months. Turkey last year was incredible .

lewis has made the best start to a season of his career, i suspect this is related to the fact that max has made the best start to a season in his career - lewis has the competition he's wanted and appears to revel in it.

 

[njmackem]

Well just finished watching the Spanish GP (I can't see a race in it's entirety. I must rely on the record button or online steaming of full races) and I must say I have never seen a hollower win in all my life.

I felt for Max. Lead the race the whole time and about 4 or 3 from the end Lewis right at the death overtakes to win purely because his tires had better longevity than Max's. Purely because Max's wasn't going to last the rest of the race. Has Lewis EVER fought other drivers for it or has he relied on his tires to give him it? Is that what all of his titles have been about? Pleeeeeaaaasssssseee!

Instead of the one big black round thing (circuit) F1 seems to be won and lost on the four small black round things (tires) and in the pits. That's where the action is. That's where the race is conducted. The entire time Ted and Mark were talking about the life of Max's tires or Lewis' tires and what they must do for them to win. Most of the excitement is based around waiting with baited breath wondering if one drivers's tires are going to last and whether or not his rival ought to do a one stop or a two stop.

However I am still glad I tuned in. On lap 59 or 60 I think it was there was a small group from Alonso to Russell in the middle who were together. That's when the race came alive for me.

OK I get it. In F1 tires and the various compounds and lifespan's are the best thing since the invention of the bread slicer. Can we please focus on actual racing now?

Someone clearly just doesn't like Hamilton.

Don't think I've read a more clueless summation of a race in my life.

 

[smasha]

lewis has made the best start to a season of his career, i suspect this is related to the fact that max has made the best start to a season in his career - lewis has the competition he's wanted and appears to revel in it.

I did have some thoughts he may have lost some race craft, shows how much I know

 

[njmackem]

Sky did a top bottom split screen lap showing Rosberg and Hamilton steering action in about 2015

Their times were very similar.

Rosberg sawed at the wheel in nearly every corner whereas Hamilton drove round it like he was on his way to church.

The conclusion was that Hamiltons smoother approach was less testing on the tyres thereby giving greater longevity.

I read an analysis showing Max taking corners wider and putting more energy through them than Lewis which showed how much better Lewis was on tyres.

 

[cosmicchris00]

I read an analysis showing Max taking corners wider and putting more energy through them than Lewis which showed how much better Lewis was on tyres.

Large parts of the 2019 & 2020 seasons showed Hamilton getting to the front and just driving round at a pace he knew nobody could match and save their tyres

 

[Toronado]

Sky did a top bottom split screen lap showing Rosberg and Hamilton steering action in about 2015

Their times were very similar.

Rosberg sawed at the wheel in nearly every corner whereas Hamilton drove round it like he was on his way to church.

The conclusion was that Hamiltons smoother approach was less testing on the tyres thereby giving greater longevity.

Said before on Peter Windsor is brilliant on youtube analysing how and why Lewis is great on the car and tyres !

noticing in Spain how he was straight earlier out of the corners getting power down in a straight line and being easier on his tyres with corner entry, speed and steering input !

Lewis is brilliant and probably the best of all time, he’s getting results and wins out of cars he shouldn't have, he’s now led a team through dominance and is consistent for years more than anyone at the highest level without cheating or being underhanded in anyway unlike the likes of Schumacher, Vettel and Rosberg

 

[Rizla]

Well just finished watching the Spanish GP (I can't see a race in it's entirety. I must rely on the record button or online steaming of full races) and I must say I have never seen a hollower win in all my life.

I felt for Max. Lead the race the whole time and about 4 or 3 from the end Lewis right at the death overtakes to win purely because his tires had better longevity than Max's. Purely because Max's wasn't going to last the rest of the race. Has Lewis EVER fought other drivers for it or has he relied on his tires to give him it? Is that what all of his titles have been about? Pleeeeeaaaasssssseee!

Instead of the one big black round thing (circuit) F1 seems to be won and lost on the four small black round things (tires) and in the pits. That's where the action is. That's where the race is conducted. The entire time Ted and Mark were talking about the life of Max's tires or Lewis' tires and what they must do for them to win. Most of the excitement is based around waiting with baited breath wondering if one drivers's tires are going to last and whether or not his rival ought to do a one stop or a two stop.

However I am still glad I tuned in. On lap 59 or 60 I think it was there was a small group from Alonso to Russell in the middle who were together. That's when the race came alive for me.

OK I get it. In F1 tires and the various compounds and lifespan's are the best thing since the invention of the bread slicer. Can we please focus on actual racing now?

F1 has always been about tyres, at the end of the day the cars generate huge downforce which depends on the grip available in the tyres.

Remember Damon Hill breaking down on the last lap of Hungary in 97 in the Arrows whilst 30 seconds ahead of the whole field. Massively unlucky but it is the modern day equivalent of a Haas being 30 seconds ahead on pure pace. But a closer inspection tells you he was running Bridgestone tyres whilst almost everyone else was on Goodyear and the hot weather and track conditions meant an ordinarily slow car was suddenly right on the pace.

Regardless of the era, tyres have always been key and always will be.

 

[The Hesford Diet]

They ought to try reverse grid at Monaco based on Barcelona's final placings. That'd liven it up a bit.

 

[Dan The Man]

True he did but as this tweet shows the rest of the teams had handed back their other set of mediums during practices. Merc knew it wasnt an easy one stop from 2019 so handed a set of softs back instead in favour of another race tyre.

I just can’t believe Red Bull didn’t see it coming, the exact same situation happened to them at Hungary.

RBR even said that as soon as he’d pitted

This is certainly the case, for certain people every single one of his 98 wins has an excuse, best car/strategy call/opponent error, never just that he was the in the best team-driver combo that day.

Since the dawn of time in F1, the best drivers end up in the best cars, then proceed to show everyone why they're the best.

The best drivers also help out with the design and set up of a car

Large parts of the 2019 & 2020 seasons showed Hamilton getting to the front and just driving round at a pace he knew nobody could match and save their tyres

Engine turned down too.

would love to see last years Merc at full blast

They ought to try reverse grid at Monaco based on Barcelona's final placings. That'd liven it up a bit.

Whey it wouldn’t

F1 clamps down on flexible rear wings

Formula 1's governing body launches a clampdown on flexible rear wings amid suspicions some teams are bending the rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

Didn’t take long

 

[Big Jeff]

F1 is all about having strict rules and then employing brilliant engineers and designers to covertly bend" those rules -Brabham, Head, Newey, Chapman to name but 4, have all done this in the past and it will continue.

 

[ShieldsBlackCat2015]

F1 is all about strategy and great team planning,...

That much is true. Certainly isn't about the racing.

As pointed out by others tyre strategy is a big part of F1, it’s not sprint racing.
as for Lewis only winning because of tyres? See race 1 of this season. According to some his wins are only down to the car...

Unfortunately it is the only part.

 

[MadMackem10]

That much is true. Certainly isn't about the racing.

Unfortunately it is the only part.

Except from this season we have seen the two main championship rivals wheel to wheel at every race, but because you prefer Max over Lewis and Lewis is winning you don’t think it’s racing

 

[ShieldsBlackCat2015]

Team brilliance and ace driving from the top 3 all time driver won the race.

It was a masterclass in tyre strategy.

Watch the highlights from the start and you'll get the picture

That much is obvious. They aren't much good at anything else. Tyre strategy. That's all teams and fans obsess about. Please explain to me why it is we talk loads about tires and pit stops but not that much about the great 1-on-1 battles throughout the race. Not that you can but give it your best shot anyway.

F1 is a terrific spectacle and I was taken by the "will it/won't it" issue over whether or not Max's tyre's or Lewis' tyre's will last the race. Which is sad because not once did I focus on the race itself in the 66 laps they ran. Ted Kraviz and Martin Brundle did a great job of hyping the tyre survival battle and Lewis' blistering on the tyres was truly the most exciting thing about the race. It had me from the word go. But please can we have some racing?

 

[Big Jeff]

Just driving an F1 car these day requires so much input from the drivers it is naive to say its not about the racing.

At Monaco in just over a week the drivers will be threading a 5 metre long missile through the narrow streets of the principality at close to 200 mph.

Its not just A B and C - Acceleration, braking and cornering all of which need precise inputs from drivers.

They also open and close the drag-reduction flap (DRS), which diverts air around the rear wing to increase straight-line speed. They tweak the Brake Migration (BMIG) setup adjusting front-rear braking balance on the go. And they are upshifting and downshifting, steering and braking, nailing apexes and braking zones.

Fangio, Moss. Clark and Stewart were all wonderful drivers and we quite rightly revere their performances - but these days the drivers are operating at a different level.

And they are racing 19 other people doing the same thing - for two hours.

Its utterly amazing!

 

[ShieldsBlackCat2015]

Except from this season we have seen the two main championship rivals wheel to wheel at every race, but because you prefer Max over Lewis and Lewis is winning you don’t think it’s racing

I have read some clueless BS in my time but that takes the biscuit. Please show me proof that I prefer Max over Lewis. I prefer neither. I support Ferrari and I also like McLaren. But then being a know-it-all with ESP you knew that. Please also provide me with evidence that because I think Lewis is winning it therefore isn't racing. Baseless nonsense from start to finish.

Paranoia in the extreme. Now I know why they call you MadMackem10.

You know my issue. I just want F1 to show it can be about racing and not just the tyres.

 

[Dan The Man]

I have read some clueless BS in my time but that takes the biscuit. Please show me proof that I prefer Max over Lewis. I prefer neither. I support Ferrari and I also like McLaren. But then being a know-it-all with ESP you knew that. Please also provide me with evidence that because I think Lewis is winning it therefore isn't racing. Baseless nonsense from start to finish.

Paranoia in the extreme. Now I know why they call you MadMackem10.

You know my issue. I just want F1 to show it can be about racing and not just the tyres.

You do hate Lewis and Merc though