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PinzaC55 said:
She also has an estimated net worth of £240 million. If I had that kind of money at 50 I wouldn't give a flying fuck how much more I was making.

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Mariah Carey net worth: Staggering fortune she made from All I Want For Christmas Is You

MARIAH CAREY is best known as a singer, actress and television judge. She has had a string of number one songs during her career and earned a huge fortune. What is her net worth?
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That totally defeats the point though doesn't it .
 


Harry Angstrom said:
I love spotify. But I suppose it is a thing I should bin if I want a fairer world and encourage younger bands.

But I'm weak and I love it too much, so I see as many newer bands as I can. A little struggle and poverty is good for creating better music.
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I use it, and Apple. But I also buy as much vinyl as I can reasonably afford direct from the band. Streaming is a fairly new (in industry terms) avenue for selling / licensing music so hopefully it does adapt and become fairer with time. Labels are also under threat from large distribution / artist services companies like Kobalt/AWAL who don't retain any rights in their contracts: artists keep their rights and get a fairer % of the profits. Unlike with an outdated (IMO) label deal which tends to be 80/20 in favour of the label, with exclusivity on the master recordings +++ artists see nothing of the profits until their advance is recouped. Seems mental that that was the industry standard even as recently as the 2010s.
 
Bukowski said:
I use it, and Apple. But I also buy as much vinyl as I can reasonably afford direct from the band. Streaming is a fairly new (in industry terms) avenue for selling / licensing music so hopefully it does adapt and become fairer with time. Labels are also under threat from large distribution / artist services companies like Kobalt/AWAL who don't retain any rights in their contracts: artists keep their rights and get a fairer % of the profits. Unlike with an outdated (IMO) label deal which tends to be 80/20 in favour of the label, with exclusivity on the master recordings +++ artists see nothing of the profits until their advance is recouped. Seems mental that that was the industry standard even as recently as the 2010s.
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I see no merit in buying albums, I am satisfied with the quality of music streams. May as well donate the money to the bands but I won't do that. Gigs is where I will give my money directly. I haven't bought a band t-shirt since Knebworth 1979, so merch is out as well. :lol:
 
PTR said:
Did you miss that its 1/3p for every one hundred listens. I was trying to think of a number that might represent how many times you might listen to song you may once have bought for 99p on iTunes. 100 times seemed like a good number, and that would be 1p per listen - 285 times more per listen!
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Is that much different to a song being played on the radio? 250,000 people listen to it and you get paid a very modest royalty. Streaming services aren't music purchase models, more like personalised radio stations.
 
Dan..Dan..Dan..Dan said:
Is that much different to a song being played on the radio? 250,000 people listen to it and you get paid a very modest royalty. Streaming services aren't music purchase models, more like personalised radio stations.
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Certainly one way to look at it.
Just that streaming services have almost entirely killed off music buying, which radio never really did
 
Dan..Dan..Dan..Dan said:
Is that much different to a song being played on the radio? 250,000 people listen to it and you get paid a very modest royalty. Streaming services aren't music purchase models, more like personalised radio stations.
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Radio 1 (this was about 3-4 years ago) was worth about £15 per minute from the PRS and from the PPL nearly £40 - for one single full play - in royalties. Three minute pop songs would net an artist £85 in total. Again, the A Listed artists would be making considerable whack from Radio 1 with around 8 plays a day, 7 days a week. Not much good for the rump of artists like but there ya go.
 
Bukowski said:
Radio 1 (this was about 3-4 years ago) was worth about £15 per minute from the PRS and from the PPL nearly £40 - for one single full play - in royalties. Three minute pop songs would net an artist £85 in total. Again, the A Listed artists would be making considerable whack from Radio 1 with around 8 plays a day, 7 days a week. Not much good for the rump of artists like but there ya go.
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Why they like the presenters to talk a lot.. saves in radio play money.. they can get bloody good money from radio plays around the world
 
PTR said:
Certainly one way to look at it.
Just that streaming services have almost entirely killed off music buying, which radio never really did
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Exactly. Radio, and TV, always tended to enhance music buying, hence labels having pluggers pushing singles by their artists to Radios 1 and 2 and indepedent radio and a Top of the Pops appearance usually leading to a big leap in sales for the single.
 
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Is pretty poor really but I can’t see it changing any time soon that artists get more money
 
Arkle said:
Exactly. Radio, and TV, always tended to enhance music buying, hence labels having pluggers pushing singles by their artists to Radios 1 and 2 and indepedent radio and a Top of the Pops appearance usually leading to a big leap in sales for the single.
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Just reeled off a big chunk of my job description :lol:
 
PTR said:
0.004p per listen.

Can't help but think that's not enough money. Someone listens to your song 100 times and you make 1/3 of a penny.
How can anyone justify that?
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Lets be honest though, its more than he would be making if streaming wasn't around. Not saying that the splits are fair, but if he relied on people playing old CD's, Tapes and Vinyl he would be £37 worse off.
 
Abu Dhabi Red and White said:
Well, artists don't have to sign up with a streaming service nor do concerned posters.
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Could and should be fairer for the artists who aren’t global megastars like. Streaming is here to stay now and it’s snide that the biggest corporations dictate the tempo massively.
 
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