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The Beautiful Game said:
Some journalist , may have been Barnes, said it was coincidence and Rodwell was horrified etc. Might be right. No idea. My mate was in the Roker bar when they turned up though and he reckoned there were four of them sat in the restaurant at one point. I don't know if they planned to meet. It could well have been coincidence
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I really can’t believe that this meeting was a coincidence.
 

palm 1 said:
I really can’t believe that this meeting was a coincidence.
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As another poster said, why on earth would the club arrange a meeting with a potential buyer in a very public pub. There's absolutely no proof the photos were taken on the same day, only that they were uploaded 30 minutes apart. Why didn't the bloke who took the photos of them walking in not take one of them sat together? Because they didn't.

The only way it wouldn't have been a coincidence is if Storey went there on purpose knowing Rodwell could be there at some point that day.
 
Super Mario said:
The only way that would happen is if he's been saying something libelous, it might explain why he's been nitpicking absolutely everything the club does.
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It wasn't from the club, it was from his (former) employer who didn't want him to publish a book about Donald.

And he was largely, as I say, proven correct that Donald and co. were absolutely playing extremely fast and loose with club funds.
 
Get Into Em said:
As another poster said, why on earth would the club arrange a meeting with a potential buyer in a very public pub. There's absolutely no proof the photos were taken on the same day, only that they were uploaded 30 minutes apart. Why didn't the bloke who took the photos of them walking in not take one of them sat together? Because they didn't.

The only way it wouldn't have been a coincidence is if Storey went there on purpose knowing Rodwell could be there at some point that day.
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As stated earlier why is it ridiculous to imagine storey and Rodwell going to poetic license but acceptable for FPP and the board to go to romanos?
palm 1 said:
I really can’t believe that this meeting was a coincidence.
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I can’t either. Would be an incredible coincidence for them both to be staying there considering Rodwell has a place up here.

There is a chance, I suppose, that storey could have found out where he was staying and gone there.
 
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KittenMittens said:
It wasn't from the club, it was from his (former) employer who didn't want him to publish a book about Donald.

And he was largely, as I say, proven correct that Donald and co. were absolutely playing extremely fast and loose with club funds.
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I've yet to see that as being proven correct like, I have slagged Donald off before about his bad decisions but not seen anything that would suggest he's taking funds out of the club, the parachute money was used to buy the club and he didn't disclose that but weatherspoon seems to suggest and imply a hell of a lot more than that.

I wasn't aware he'd written a book I'll have a look at it, it doesn't seem typical that an employer who wasn't connected to Donald would be bothered about this book, maybe there's more to it than you can say?
 
KittenMittens said:
Weatherspoon has been largely correct in spirit about our owners since Donald tried to hang him out to dry. I disagree on some of his detail, but we both - along with a number of posters on here - foreshadowed the potential creative accounting that has come to pass.

So basically, why shouldn't he tweet about his gut feeling? He's proven himself a bigger fan than any of us, which one day I hope becomes more public knowledge.
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How? Does he have safc curtains and wont eat black or white pudding?
 
Super Mario said:
I've yet to see that as being proven correct like, I have slagged Donald off before about his bad decisions but not seen anything that would suggest he's taking funds out of the club, the parachute money was used to buy the club and he didn't disclose that but weatherspoon seems to suggest and imply a hell of a lot more than that.

I wasn't aware he'd written a book I'll have a look at it, it doesn't seem typical that an employer who wasn't connected to Donald would be bothered about this book, maybe there's more to it than you can say?
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He used £20.5m of the club's money to do a deal for himself (something he said he wouldn't do), which he agreed to pay back, only to subsequently wipe the legal debt that he owed.

I don't know what Weatherspoon has said recently, but it's really simple. That did happen. The funds did leave the club and were used as working capital for his deal.
 
The Beautiful Game said:
Some journalist , may have been Barnes, said it was coincidence and Rodwell was horrified etc. Might be right. No idea. My mate was in the Roker bar when they turned up though and he reckoned there were four of them sat in the restaurant at one point. I don't know if they planned to meet. It could well have been coincidence
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From what we know of Storey, more likely that Rodwell was there with a couple of people, and he gatecrashed.
 
The Beautiful Game said:
As stated earlier why is it ridiculous to imagine storey and Rodwell going to poetic license but acceptable for FPP and the board to go to romanos?

I can’t either. Would be an incredible coincidence for them both to be staying there considering Rodwell has a place up here.

There is a chance, I suppose, that storey could have found out where he was staying and gone there.
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Aye, agree with that. Storey was here for, what, one or two days? Pretty unlikely that by pure coincidence he'd be in the same place at the same time as Rodwell. There's a few different rumours about it, some suggest Storey knew Rodwell was staying there so went there in the hopes that he could meet him. I've also heard that apparently the club weren't happy with him posting so much about it all on twitter (since apparently he isn't near to a deal, never has been and likely never will be) and that was them meeting him to suggest that he might want to stop (mind if that's true it obviously hasn't worked!). Whatever the truth is, I find it hard to believe that they just randomly went to the same place at the same time. It's possible of course, but must be very long odds!
 
KittenMittens said:
He used £20.5m of the club's money to do a deal for himself (something he said he wouldn't do), which he agreed to pay back, only to subsequently wipe the legal debt that he owed.

I don't know what Weatherspoon has said recently, but it's really simple. That did happen. The funds did leave the club and were used as working capital for his deal.
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That's speculation, given the interweaving of SBC debt into it. Unless we can see the actual sale agreement between Drumaville and Madrox, the circumstances around the use of the parachute payment are as clear as mud, and interpretation of it as much a matter of personal preference as anything else. The way the story kept changing was more than unhelpful in this. Looking from Short's side, he wanted £15m for the shares and reimbursement for the debt he'd cosmetically moved. Anything beyond that is conjecture. The version given me by Methven in a meeting which he knew was going to be the subject of agreed minutes is as good as any.
 
KittenMittens said:
He used £20.5m of the club's money to do a deal for himself (something he said he wouldn't do), which he agreed to pay back, only to subsequently wipe the legal debt that he owed.

I don't know what Weatherspoon has said recently, but it's really simple. That did happen. The funds did leave the club and were used as working capital for his deal.
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All that means is he paid £20 million not 40, it's not going to win him any friends and it shows how much he underestimated is as fans and the intensity of the club generally. It's hardly a smoking gun though is it, there are plenty of real reasons to be upset with him about, the small time mentality of the academy, it's fairly clear now that the young lads who've left have done so for more money. He was clearly thinking that being in league one would mean young lads would be happy with less money just to stay at the club. It's crippled us and was absolutely shit decision making but again, none of this makes him a con man who's taking money from the club.

The structure of the purchase is neither here nor there, if he'd just been open and said Ellis gets the final parachute payment and I'm paying 20 it wouldn't have been a problem and he has since then put that money back into the club, if he remains the owner he will end up putting it all back in plus more.

I've waffled a bit there like but basically he either sells and we get what we want or he keeps the club and has no option but to put that money back into the club anyway, I'm presuming that will also make everyone happy?
 
riffraff said:
Hard to believe the number of people discounting coincidence. Sunderland isn’t exactly London or New York or Paris or anywhere with dozens of cracking daytime eateries for men who’ve moved beyond chips with everything.
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And not exactly overloaded with good hotels either. There's the Hilton and the Roker, and that's about it.
 
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