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Just a reminder, the bloke is an otter twat
'Otter Than July
Somehow don't think it's intentional, it doesn't benefit them in anyway
The "mistakes" they are making now are purely intentional. These actions are being taken to hide the mess they have made and continue to make. That's the benefit now, whereas at one time the benefit was for the good of the club. Now it's about keeping heads above water.
 
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They are the major disease at the club and we're currently on a slow, painful death.......Anyone who thinks they are doing a good job or defending them, are totally deluded!

We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.
 
We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.
 
We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.

Fuck off.
 
We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.
A couple of points I would appreciate you to respond to....
1. Why cherry pick the best run of form? Why not select the entire of 2019 or the entire of Parkinson’s run? I could say looking at the last 4 games we are going to pick up 23 points next year.
2. Should every club not be aiming for top 2 not
top 6? Surely it is a bare minimum to better our worst ever club finish.
3. Once again, why contrast us with the worst? You could argue imagine waking up as an Oxford fan, Wycombe fan, Coventry fan, Rotherham fan who have teams which have had success and are currently more progressive than us.
4. How do we have a relatively strong position? We have lost first team players from last season and not replaced them, we have most of the staff on furlough and we seemingly have restraints with finance. You might argue that other clubs are similar and it’s true, but that means we are the same as other clubs and not stronger than them.
 
We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.

aiming for the top 6, are you taking the piss?

we aren’t a good team (we’ve hardly even got a team currently), we don’t have a good manager and we have owners and their mates who have ruined the club over the last 2 years.

As for comparing to other clubs, massive loss of income when they look like they don’t have the money to run the club could well push us in a similar direction
 
A couple of points I would appreciate you to respond to....
1. Why cherry pick the best run of form? Why not select the entire of 2019 or the entire of Parkinson’s run? I could say looking at the last 4 games we are going to pick up 23 points next year.
2. Should every club not be aiming for top 2 not
top 6? Surely it is a bare minimum to better our worst ever club finish.
3. Once again, why contrast us with the worst? You could argue imagine waking up as an Oxford fan, Wycombe fan, Coventry fan, Rotherham fan who have teams which have had success and are currently more progressive than us.
4. How do we have a relatively strong position? We have lost first team players from last season and not replaced them, we have most of the staff on furlough and we seemingly have restraints with finance. You might argue that other clubs are similar and it’s true, but that means we are the same as other clubs and not stronger than them.

1. it's an example of what could be possible over a good sample size.
2. i think we will win the league next year, but let's focus on being in the mix come May one way or another and take it from there. We can't have another season where we're not in the mix and this club has to learn from making naive promises about 100 points.
3. because they're being portrayed as the worst of the worst, and I'm saying it's not the case. If someone was to state that they were the best owners, then you'd be able to make comparisons to the clubs who currently doing well
4. no one at this level comes close to what we have as a club. We will hurt from this but other club's pain will be a lot greater relative to what they can take. Many of them were struggling before this.
 
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We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.

Tom, you are a clown mate. Nice to know the aim for this season has gone from reaching 100 points, to simply finishing in the top 6. Some progress that.
 
Nice to know the aim for this season has gone from reaching 100 points, to simply finishing in the top 6. Some progress that.

You can't guarantee anything in football and it was a huge error to promise points totals and it only risks antagonising the fans. We could sign a 30 goal striker this summer who breaks his legs on day 1. That might make the difference between automatic and the play offs. There could be some very strong teams coming down as well.

I say bring it on and I have faith that we can be the best team in the division next year. But over the last two years, would I really turn down a win in the play-off final at Wembley via a last minute winner off someone's backside? No chance!
 
1. it's an example of what could be possible over a good sample size.
2. i think we will win the league next year, but let's focus on being in the mix come May one way or another and take it from there. We can't have another season where we're not in the mix and this club has to learn from making naive promises about 100 points.
3. because they're being portrayed as the worst of the worst, and I'm saying it's not the case. If someone was to state that they were the best owners, then you'd be able to make comparisons to the clubs who currently doing well
4. no one at this level comes close to what we have as a club. We will hurt from this but other club's pain will be a lot greater relative to what they can take. Many of them were struggling before this.
You are living proof that care in the community often fails.
Whatever drugs you are on, they are simply not working.
 
You can't guarantee anything in football and it was a huge error to promise points totals and it only risks antagonising the fans. We could sign a 30 goal striker this summer who breaks his legs on day 1. That might make the difference between automatic and the play offs. There could be some very strong teams coming down as well.

I say bring it on and I have faith that we can be the best team in the division next year. But over the last two years, would I really turn down a win in the play-off final at Wembley via a last minute winner off someone's backside? No chance!

Nice quotation edit, crafty.

You're right about what may happen to a 30 goal a season striker potentially getting injured. They however, cost money, so therefore we won't be signing a 30 goal a season striker, so no need to worry about any potential injuries.

We'll also be a long way off being the best team in the league next year. Peterborough, Fleetwood, Portsmouth all streets ahead of us in terms of playing style and quality, plus the loser of Oxford and Wycombe. Then, there's the 3 to come down too.

8th/9th at best for us next season, as it stands. Unless a miracle happens, and Charlie Salmon Knickers, Baby Stewy, Juan the Invisible and the rest of the Eastleigh squad are gone. Sadly though, they wont be.
 
You're right about what may happen to a 30 goal a season striker potentially getting injured. They however, cost money, so therefore we won't be signing a 30 goal a season striker, so no need to worry about any potential injuries.

We'll also be a long way off being the best team in the league next year. Peterborough, Fleetwood, Portsmouth all streets ahead of us in terms of playing style and quality, plus the loser of Oxford and Wycombe. Then, there's the 3 to come down too.

8th/9th at best for us next season, as it stands. Unless a miracle happens, and Charlie Salmon Knickers, Baby Stewy, Juan the Invisible and the rest of the Eastleigh squad are gone. Sadly though, they wont be.

You seem to be suggesting that the current status quo remains - that the 3 that come down and the 4 above us will make up the top 7. It's overly simple logic and it never happens. You'd have had Wycombe down for 17th place finish again this season with that rationale. There's no reason why we cannot improve too.
 
You seem to be suggesting that the current status quo remains - that the 3 that come down and the 4 above us will make up the top 7. It's overly simple logic and it never happens. You'd have had Wycombe down for 17th place finish again this season with that rationale. There's no reason why we cannot improve too.

Yeah the best teams tend to finish at the top at the top of the league Tom, it's how football works. Or by your logic, do the better teams finish lower down? Maybe that's why Stewy's Sunderland are essentially sitting mid table eh? "But we are still the best team Charlie, aren't we?!". "Yeah Stewy, we are brilliant. Now, isn't it time for your next bottle?".
 
You seem to be suggesting that the current status quo remains - that the 3 that come down and the 4 above us will make up the top 7. It's overly simple logic and it never happens. You'd have had Wycombe down for 17th place finish again this season with that rationale. There's no reason why we cannot improve too.
Sloanerbee, irrespective of the stats which are disputable anyhow, the bloke who gave you a role at the club had failed dismally and has us worse off than the previous year. You are the epitome of what is wrong with the hierarchy at this club, you think there is fuck all wrong, you treat us with contempt and think we are thick as fuck. You aren’t wanted by any fan in the role, you weren’t voted in, don’t speak for me. I can see with my own eyes as can the majority of others, that Donald is a fuckwit, and if indeed you are who we think you are, he is a bigger fuckwit for employing the likes of you.
 
Other than a small revival in the 2013/14 for the past ten seasons SAFC has ended up in lower league position than in the previous season. That's a pretty dreadful record based upon almost 400 games.

It clearly demonstrates that SAFC has maintained a very consistent and downward trend in final league positions. Its also a trend that has been continued by the current regime and playing staff. If nothing changes in terms of owners manager and standard of players - and there's nothing to suggest there will be any change - you can bet your bottom dollar that SAFC will finish the 2020/21 season in a lower league position than it did this year.
 
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You seem to be suggesting that the current status quo remains - that the 3 that come down and the 4 above us will make up the top 7. It's overly simple logic and it never happens. You'd have had Wycombe down for 17th place finish again this season with that rationale. There's no reason why we cannot improve too.
But what suggests we will? You seem to be implying we are hoping the rest get comparatively weaker compared to ourselves.
Let's not like, the last 4 weeks of the season suggested we were inconsistent at best. Since that time, we have lost our first choice goalkeeper and 2 first choice defenders.
We have also lost a number of squad players. There is no atmosphere around the club as no one is working in the club buildings.
What indicates an improvment over last season? A hope that everyone else is much worse?
 
Other than a small revival in the 2013/14 for the past ten seasons SAFC has ended up in lower league position than in the previous season. That's a pretty dreadful record based upon almost 400 games.

It clearly demonstrates that SAFC has maintained a very consistent and downward trend in final league positions. Its also a trend that has been continued by the current regime and playing staff. If nothing changes in terms of owners manager and standard of players - and there's nothing to suggest there will be any change - you can bet your bottom dollar that SAFC will finish the 2020/21 season in a lower league position than it did this year.

So for the past 6 seasons then.
Pretty depressing and agree unlikely to see the trend change with these chancers making it up as they go along, imo.
You seem to be suggesting that the current status quo remains - that the 3 that come down and the 4 above us will make up the top 7. It's overly simple logic and it never happens. You'd have had Wycombe down for 17th place finish again this season with that rationale. There's no reason why we cannot improve too.

Can’t see us improving as it stands like.
 
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No Quinny on the horizon this time, unfortunately. Surely ex players can get together with local businessmen and come up with a good package? Maybe lean on Bob Murray for guidance.
f***ing hell.
We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.
Utter horse shit.
 
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We started the year with 29 points from a possible 36. If you were to extrapolate that over a full season it gives you 110 points, just to put that run into context. We are a still a good team, needing some slight adjustments, and I do believe we have a good Manager even though many may have their doubts. Bettering this campaign and aiming for the top six will be the objective for this season and we will be very competitive. That means we will be difficult to beat and we will win most weekends.

If you're waking up as a Bury fan, you don't have a club. Who knows when they'll have another club to represent their community, if they ever will again. If you're waking up as a Wigan fan, you're facing the prospect of losing your best players for a fraction of their value and relegation, and who knows what happens then. They'll possibly be in a position similar to Bolton where the best they've got to look forward to is to lose every week, and the worst case scenario is that they don't have a club either.

Sunderland has its issues and the ownership have made mistakes but it's a far cry from the hard realities many clubs have faced, are facing or will face shortly. That does not mean you have to like them but our relatively strong position in a challenging landscape has to be acknowledged.
We are about to lose an absolute fortune in parachute payments, are struggling to afford our academy and are in league one. Bury are a tiny club, Wigan’s crowd is about 1/4 of hours, Bolton about 2/3. We are not comparable to them. When Bolton were doing well we were still bigger but still not well run. We are a well supported club with outstanding facilities who have had a budget much bigger than others who are starting a third season In an absolute dog shit league with many terrible signings and our owners wouldn’t commit last season to getting the goal scorer we desperately needed despite borrowing 10 million quid. Judging ourselves against Bury and Wigan is insulting. Judge us against Coventry, Fleetwood, Wycombe, Oxford, Rotherham. It’s disgusting how badly run we’ve been. Not even defensible. Embarrassing. I’m no a Parkinson hater I’ll give you that bit. The rest of what you said is pathetic tbh. Sunderland and Bury !! f***ing hell.
 
Personally find it hard to believe anyone would be contemplating buying a league one club at the moment. Once crowds are back sure, but there is no guarantee clubs will have their main source of income available this coming season.

Maybe it's because I'm US based and the volume is turned up on the whole thing here but capitalism dictates football will return to normal, with crowds, sooner rather than later.

f***ing Disneyland opened this past week, with cases soaring across the country. Football will be back asap.

With that as the reality we live in, there is always someone looking to speculate. If they can get the current mob to ditch it out of desperation before crowds come back, they will have a potential bargain.
 
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