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June to July 2020 - NUFC

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Benitez first job was to secure survival but he failed to do it. We all no he was left a mess by mclaren but he has to take accountability for failing to beat Norwich, Sunderland and Villa. One win and we’re safe. He’ll be disappointed with that and will know he should have done better.
Joelinton £40,000,000 + undisclosed add ons
ASM £20,000,000 including add ons
Kraft £5 million
Loan fees £3 million

Close enough.

Or do they only count as Bruce signings if they're good?


Weren't you lot desperate to get Reidy back for years, and compared the failings of following regimes to his "success" ? Or is that not the same because it's you?
I do not think Bruce had a say in any of those signings. Especially Jur Linton as King Rafa apparently wasn't amused when the wheels were put in motion last season for the transfer.
 

I’ve watched quite a lot of French football and if a mid-level premier league team had him, they’d build a team around him.
Why is it, do you think, he failed so spectacularly under McClaren?
Based on three PL starts? I would have persevered a tad longer for that outlay.
Perhaps, if we'd stayed up we might have, but he was never going to play in the Championship so we'll never know. I do know that every time I watched him play he was anonymous, my abiding memory of him was that he gave the ball away cheaply. Another example of a player bought because he was deemed good value, rather than being fit for the team at the time.
 
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Why is it, do you think, he failed so spectacularly under McClaren?

Perhaps, if we'd stayed up we might have, but he was never going to play in the Championship so we'll never know. I do know that every time I watched him play he was anonymous, my abiding memory of him was that he gave the ball away cheaply. Another example of a player bought because he was deemed good value, rather than being fit for the team at the time.
No idea. Maybe they didn’t play to his strengths, motivate him properly. Neither McLaren nor Benitez are known for getting the best out of flair players
 
No idea. Maybe they didn’t play to his strengths, motivate him properly. Neither McLaren nor Benitez are known for getting the best out of flair players
Maybe he's just one of those players who can tear it up in the French League but can't produce in the Premier League. Put it this way, I've more faith in Joelinton coming good than I did with Thauvin. Even Cabella looked a better player for the Premier League than old Flo-Thau.
 
Perhaps, if we'd stayed up we might have, but he was never going to play in the Championship so we'll never know. I do know that every time I watched him play he was anonymous, my abiding memory of him was that he gave the ball away cheaply. Another example of a player bought because he was deemed good value, rather than being fit for the team at the time.
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He was sent back on loan to Marseille as early as the first January. You knew then you'd be relegated?
 
Bruce now needs 7 points from the last 8 games to match Rafa's best ever total at the mags despite having both of their goalscorers leave in the summer to be replaced by joelinton.


Bruce now needs 6 points from the last 7 games to match Rafa's best ever total at the mags despite having both of their goalscorers leave in the summer to be replaced by joelinton.


Bruce now needs 3 points from the last 6 games to match Rafa's best ever total at the mags despite having both of their goalscorers leave in the summer to be replaced by joelinton.
 
Bruce now needs 3 points from the last 6 games to match Rafa's best ever total at the mags despite having both of their goalscorers leave in the summer to be replaced by joelinton.

Didn’t you get the memo, flower? League position is what matters.

Target- 9th.

Again, it’s funny how some of you are buzzing when we win so you can point to Bruce being better than Benitez.
 
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Didn’t you get the memo, flower? League position is what matters.

Target- 9th.
You were holding court on here throughout the back end of 2019 telling absolutely anyone who would listen how he wouldnt stay ahead of the points target much longer and we'd all have to shut up then. :lol:

44 points got 10th that season. Sheffield United in 10th have that already with 7 games to go,as do Everton in 11th with 6 to go. :lol:
 
You were holding court on here throughout the back end of 2019 telling absolutely anyone who would listen how he wouldnt stay ahead of the points target much longer and we'd all have to shut up then. :lol:

44 points got 10th that season. Sheffield United in 10th have that already with 7 games to go,as do Everton in 11th with 6 to go. :lol:

I don’t make the rules. Someone else did a few pages back.
 
They aren't rules. They are opinions. You've changed your opinion on how you want to measure relative success now your original metric isn't turning out the way you'd hoped.

No point in having a go just because the collective barometer has changed. Accept it.
 
Didn’t you get the memo, flower? League position is what matters.

Target- 9th.

Again, it’s funny how some of you are buzzing when we win so you can point to Bruce being better than Benitez.

It’s glorious and great to watch, what all these other fans who love them must think.With each win we get further away them yet they love it .
 
No point in having a go just because the collective barometer has changed. Accept it.

No denial I see. AS NEWCASTLE MANAGERS they've been as good as each other, Bruce probably better. You've needed to adapt how you measure it as the season has developed to protect St Rafa - there's no debate over whether you have. You know you have too, hence the irrelevant replies talking about other people.

You'd be better off just admitting you've been surprised / you got it wrong / gave Bruce some credit. You can't and won't though. You'll come up with a measure to suggest Rafa did better. Should Bruce get you 10th you'll come up with another one too. Guaranteed.
 
No denial I see. AS NEWCASTLE MANAGERS they've been as good as each other, Bruce probably better. You've needed to adapt how you measure it as the season has developed to protect St Rafa - there's no debate over whether you have. You know you have too, hence the irrelevant replies talking about other people.

You'd be better off just admitting you've been surprised / you got it wrong / gave Bruce some credit. You can't and won't though. You'll come up with a measure to suggest Rafa did better. Should Bruce get you 10th you'll come up with another one too. Guaranteed.

I’ll give Bruce a modicum if credit but fuck me we’ve been massive lucky in a number of games. Tonight obviously not one of them.

I’m happy we’ve won though, moreso for you though that you’re straight on here to push your Bruce > Benitez cause. Fair play.
 
I’ll give Bruce a modicum if credit but fuck me we’ve been massive lucky in a number of games. Tonight obviously not one of them.

I’m happy we’ve won though, moreso for you though that you’re straight on here to push your Bruce > Benitez cause. Fair play.
He's been a better NEWCASTLE MANAGER no doubt about it.

And modicum of credit, just like Rafa used to get from you lot for not doing as well.
 
He's been a better NEWCASTLE MANAGER no doubt about it.

And modicum of credit, just like Rafa used to get from you lot for not doing as well.

Like I’ve said, I’m happy that you’re happy because Newcastle won.
 
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