Ciro_DiMarzio
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I think working from home full time will be unhealthy for a lot of people. A combination of the two is a good idea imo.
Will companies want workers to work at home when covid has disappeared?
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Crook Mackem
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the problem i have, is I have 8 or 9 people in my team working for me and a few of them are younger, so they`re still learning really. we still on the phone / teams all the time but 1) it cant be doing their development any good and 2) they could just login, do the teams thing, send the odd email and then fire their xboxes back up for all i know. .
i`m not sure what the end answer is, but it cant be solely working in an office OR working from home. there will need to be a bit of both for most jobs i would imagine.
the part of my job that involves drawings / reports etc has been loads easier as i can just crack on but the bit where you have to do a bit raking about, ask people stuff, chase stuff up face to face (rather than being ignored via email) has been a bit of a ball ache tbh
i`m not sure what the end answer is, but it cant be solely working in an office OR working from home. there will need to be a bit of both for most jobs i would imagine.
the part of my job that involves drawings / reports etc has been loads easier as i can just crack on but the bit where you have to do a bit raking about, ask people stuff, chase stuff up face to face (rather than being ignored via email) has been a bit of a ball ache tbh
PTR
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All of this is established in the home-worker regulations isn't it? At least, I'm sure it is in our place. Designated home workers are entitled to stuff. Obviously I don't know the exact details
PTR
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Horses for courses, of course.
A mix is probably the right answer, as mentioned above.
Bob Fleming
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Yep totally agree. And it will be very bad news for places. Currently Sunderland is trying to get more companies to locate to the town/new riverside locations as a building block to town centre improvements and creating a better economy.
I think a massive shift to home working will benefit people like working parents but be fairly shit for society as a whole.
Ciro_DiMarzio
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For many people work is a place where they socialise and get adult interaction. I admit that after 2 months of being furloughed and our lass being the only adult I've really spoke with face to face it is starting to do my head in. Working from home full time would be similar. Plenty advantages of working from home but disadvantages too.
Harry Angstrom
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I think people underestimate the social interaction aspect of work.
It is fine whilst everyone is off work but working from home is a tough gig for many. Imho.
It is fine whilst everyone is off work but working from home is a tough gig for many. Imho.
This.
I'd agree with that. In the longer term, my job will mean a combo of the two is needed. However, in the short term, working from home makes sense. The site I work on has 2500 people working on it and, the estimate is, that with current social distancing rules in place, it can currently take 350.
The social face to face part is what I'm missing primarily. Zoom isn't the same...
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Yep, rural homes with decent gardens will be increasingly sought after.
It will be mandatory if the offices get sold off
These trendy shared work places might see increased demand once people are able to mingle again. @MackneyHackem will be girding his loins imo.
This is a trap. You're trying to ascertain if its safe to go and wank it off, for 12.5g of Cutter's Choice.
Selling offices off would be the wrong move and IMO poor for worker wellbeing and productivity.
There are clear benefits to both but spending your entire life in your house, never meeting your colleagues etc...no thanks
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Butcher's Coat
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Have to laugh at some of the office wallers on here who would accept less money to work from home.
f***ing idiots.
f***ing idiots.
CatRyan
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there are other things to consider
Some of my best mates are people I've worked with in the past. Admittedly I've reached the grumpy old bugger stage of life where I have enough friends and don't need any more so working from home is okay most of the time.
I worked from home for four years whilst working for myself but always had the option to go and meet friends or sit in a coffee shop for a change of scenery. It's not quite the same when you're not fully managing your own time.
42
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In London it could make a lot of sense. If you live on the commuter belt & paying a fortune for trains plus your own lost time time, you could be a lot better off.
Butcher's Coat
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A lot of sense for the employer perhaps (for various reasons mentioned already) - but the point I am making is that an employee should NEVER voluntarily give away what he/she already has - in this case wages - you'll never get it back.
And what if the employee has no space in his/her residence to work from home permanently?
Might be OK with a lap-top on the dining table for a month or 2 like with this lockdown now, but all of the time?
The onus on providing a good working environment would be pushed to the employee.
You’ll be expected to buy the equipment yourself, you’ll be expected to find working space, you’ll be expected to have the right connectivity at home etc.
WFH is a convenient tool when used appropriately and with support from your employer, and I don’t have faith that enough employers will provide the right support.
To properly kit out my WFH station I’d need to drop a few hundred on two large monitors and a proper office chair.
Not something I could do at the drop of a hat.
walesie
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Then you'd have the same amount of people competing for less jobs, that'll impact on wages, especially for contractors.
42
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I agree you shouldn't willingly give up a payrise. Some of us who still have DB pensions there's the longer term loss. However the fact is, some would be financially better off in this hypothetical situation
walesie
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Maybe in the short term. In the long run people will still need the office space & there'll be a move away from hot desking and cramming people in as little space as possible. Even if companies reduce the amount of staff in the office at any given time, they'll still need the same amount of office space.
There's always been the option for us to work form home occasionally, now we're expecting it to be standard with going in the office a handful of times a month.
Would be perfect for me with a kid about to start school, saves me commuting from York to Leeds every day. It'd save me about 40 hours and 200 quid a month.
bobster999
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Not sure. I like the routine of going out to work and going to a workplace and seeing colleagues (even the ones you don't like). Then going home and changing out if work clothes. It's good to separate work/home life. There's the social aspect of it as well of seeing other people. Working from home now is temporary, I bet it would be a lot different knowing it was permanent and the novelty would quickly wear off.
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