Is this the attempted flip folk keep referring to?

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Providing things Donald says does not constitute evidence either and that's all you've got. Using the words of what people identify as a liar to prove a truth is a complete waste of time.

It's more than these folks are using. They're making things up themselves to fit their own narratives. :lol:
 


I've done a number of highly focussed google searches for articles from The Sun involving the words "Sunderland" and "takeover" along with combinations of words relating to your story like "off", "fell through", "bonus", "premier".

Nada.

Except the two stories I linked above that have been proven to be bollocks.

well I could have found the link quite easily if the owner hadn’t deleted his twitter account after a few drinks.
 
Do you believe Trump is a very stable genius just because he says so or can you deduce that he's actually a bit of a lunatic from the overwhelming evidence?

Trump's the perfect example of someone that makes things up on the spot to fit his narrative and never provides any evidence to support his claims. Just like the folks on this thread failing to back up their claims about SD.
what do you mean neither of us?

Which word are you struggling with?
 
Trump's the perfect example of someone that makes things up on the spot to fit his narrative and never provides any evidence to support his claims. Just like the folks on this thread failing to back up their claims about SD.


Which word are you struggling with?

what makes you think I’ve been conducting your investigation for you?

The article was in the mail btw
 
Trump's the perfect example of someone that makes things up on the spot to fit his narrative and never provides any evidence to support his claims. Just like the folks on this thread failing to back up their claims about SD.
The fact is that anything we say will be anecdotal though and you can dismiss it as rumour. Anything SD says is anecdotal as well the difference is you’re giving him the benefit of the doubt and others are giving it to the other Sunderland fans, coaches and parents of the youth team.
 
what makes you think I’ve been conducting your investigation for you?

The article was in the mail btw

Just did the same searches using the Daily Mail instead of The Sun in the searches.

Nothing.

Seems the story has mysteriously vanished.
 
Trump's the perfect example of someone that makes things up on the spot to fit his narrative and never provides any evidence to support his claims. Just like the folks on this thread failing to back up their claims about SD.


Which word are you struggling with?
Just like SD making claims he doesn’t back up. Sometimes there are things beneath the surface of a person's words, all it takes is a little digging to find them. I know the foundations on which my distrust of Donald are built on and they very sturdy indeed.
 
Why is everything always so polar?

I don't believe he is a saint who has come here to bail us out of everything and make us great again with his own money.

Nor do I believe he is a serial liar who is just out to make an instant profit from us.

The truth I believe is somewhere in the middle - he is a businessman, clearly he will want to make money from the risks he took buying the club.. and he did overemphasise those risks and the amount of his own money he put in to buy the club.

Equally, I don't believe he is all bad, he wants to see success the same as all of us, and I don't believe that is ALL about money. SD is clearly a football fan admittedly with no previous links to SAFC. His "investments" in Eastleigh were never going to get him a financial return and I am sure he was aware of that.

Do I think he is right for the club? No, and I won't be sorry to see him go assuming we get a smarter owner. But do I feel the need to abuse him and find fault with everything he says? No.

The bottom line for the huge majority of us is the performances on the pitch no matter who owns the club.
 
Why is everything always so polar?

I don't believe he is a saint who has come here to bail us out of everything and make us great again with his own money.

Nor do I believe he is a serial liar who is just out to make an instant profit from us.

The truth I believe is somewhere in the middle - he is a businessman, clearly he will want to make money from the risks he took buying the club.. and he did overemphasise those risks and the amount of his own money he put in to buy the club.

Equally, I don't believe he is all bad, he wants to see success the same as all of us, and I don't believe that is ALL about money. SD is clearly a football fan admittedly with no previous links to SAFC. His "investments" in Eastleigh were never going to get him a financial return and I am sure he was aware of that.

Do I think he is right for the club? No, and I won't be sorry to see him go assuming we get a smarter owner. But do I feel the need to abuse him and find fault with everything he says? No.

The bottom line for the huge majority of us is the performances on the pitch no matter who owns the club.
At last .....absolutely spot on
 
imo he wouldnt sell completely anyway. He would just take a minor shareholding and hope we get to the PL with someone elses money so he can cash in then,
Yeah, as Simon Jordan said "he is running the club on OPM. Other People's Money."

He wanted to sell at least 51% of the club which is a takeover and still run it without any inferences. If we're successful he could sell his remaining shares and make more money while he is spending other people's.
 
Why is everything always so polar?

I don't believe he is a saint who has come here to bail us out of everything and make us great again with his own money.

Nor do I believe he is a serial liar who is just out to make an instant profit from us.

The truth I believe is somewhere in the middle - he is a businessman, clearly he will want to make money from the risks he took buying the club.. and he did overemphasise those risks and the amount of his own money he put in to buy the club.

Equally, I don't believe he is all bad, he wants to see success the same as all of us, and I don't believe that is ALL about money. SD is clearly a football fan admittedly with no previous links to SAFC. His "investments" in Eastleigh were never going to get him a financial return and I am sure he was aware of that.

Do I think he is right for the club? No
, and I won't be sorry to see him go assuming we get a smarter owner. But do I feel the need to abuse him and find fault with everything he says? No.

The bottom line for the huge majority of us is the performances on the pitch no matter who owns the club.
Spot on. Especially the bold bit.
 
Why is everything always so polar?

I don't believe he is a saint who has come here to bail us out of everything and make us great again with his own money.

Nor do I believe he is a serial liar who is just out to make an instant profit from us.

The truth I believe is somewhere in the middle - he is a businessman, clearly he will want to make money from the risks he took buying the club.. and he did overemphasise those risks and the amount of his own money he put in to buy the club.

Equally, I don't believe he is all bad, he wants to see success the same as all of us, and I don't believe that is ALL about money. SD is clearly a football fan admittedly with no previous links to SAFC. His "investments" in Eastleigh were never going to get him a financial return and I am sure he was aware of that.

Do I think he is right for the club? No, and I won't be sorry to see him go assuming we get a smarter owner. But do I feel the need to abuse him and find fault with everything he says? No.

The bottom line for the huge majority of us is the performances on the pitch no matter who owns the club.

i don’t believe he is a bad bloke but he does tell white lies that come back to bite him on his arse, add to that his mate thinks we haven’t got a clue about anything so therefore a bad fit for us.
 
didnt he threaten to sue the mail or the sun for suggesting that in article where every other point turned out to be true?

wonder when it’s being heard in court? It’s gone quiet
Just provide the link marra otherwise it proves you've just made it up
 
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