SD on Radio Newcastle on Thursday evening

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Bears Beets said:
I agree, however imo he’s bluffing, he realises the majority of the fans don’t want him and thinks by bullshitting that FPP don’t want the club, the fans will jump back on side.
He’s lied and lied and lied again to the point where no one believes a word he says. Some fans are wanting to give him another chance to get us promoted, the rest want him gone. The fans getting behind Donald are blaming the fans for the shit storm which is becoming the narrative from the top of the club. What a mess and it’s down to one person.
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@MADBOB THE MAKEM ?
 
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KittenMittens said:
That is the same as being an owner though. In the end they absorb all of the risk if they do this. It begins to creep on their time, they're still the public face of the club, they're still involved way more than they would be as investors who can have input whenever they like, but also don't have to make fundamental decisions or spend time evaluating performance within the business on a regular basis.

Believe me, as an owner who does that, I know that my investors have it better than me :D They reap all of the benefits and never have to worry about person X leaving or whether to hire person Y. As I say, just because they're rich, doesn't make them immune from bad decisions (see also: Short, E) and they will be conscious of the amount of specialised knowledge needed (and possibly multiple layers) that would fall to them.

Basically, some investors don't want to own things. They're not playthings to them, they're wise investments that yield rewards and yes, have some fun moments that give you good milestones and good stuff like that. Just how it is.
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This doesn’t mean they only wanted Donald and Methven though. It means they saw the club and books as a good investment. It just so happens that those two /3 were the owners.
 
Botchie said:
He reckons he still has their money and it hasn't been touched. He reckons he has other buyers and is anticipating a fairly quick sale. He reckons he doesn't need their money because the club is in great shape. He reckons he will still invest in the squad this month. I'm not sure on any of it.
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Well we dont have to wait long mate,he said he will invest this month
 
Kermit said:
Its part of my point mate. Is it? Is it not? If they wanted it they could easily be leaking information about bids to increase the pressure on SD. Both sides are pissing about but we need some clarity on what the state of play is. SD is right about one thing at least. If they wanted it they could have it. Im speculating but i would suggest the difference between what SD wants and what they would like to pay, isnt that great in the grand scheme of things. Say it was £5m over their valuation, whats £5m? Half a bog standard premier league footballer?

If SD is trying to out manoeuvre them by saying they aren't that interested in buying us then i fail to see any logic in that. What advantage could saying that give him in negotiations? Sadly the only conclusion i can draw from that is that it is one of the few things he has stated that is probably factually accurate. If, however he is the one f*cking around, asking daft prices, he should be ran out if town. It is rare for me to not be able to form a definitive point of view on a subject, but i am snookered here. There is so much smoke and mirrors i dont know what to think.
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My guess, and of course its a guess is that they ended up quite a bit apart valuation wise and in the not too distant future won't do again.
 
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Botchie said:
He reckons he still has their money and it hasn't been touched. He reckons he has other buyers and is anticipating a fairly quick sale. He reckons he doesn't need their money because the club is in great shape. He reckons he will still invest in the squad this month. I'm not sure on any of it.
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Aye, if you believe that then pigs may still fly. I don't believe a word he now says.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
This doesn’t mean they only wanted Donald and Methven though. It means they saw the club and books as a good investment. It just so happens that those two /3 were the owners.
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Yeah, but it's rarely just about the asset. If they were like Donald and had a big plan, were used to running football clubs etc, then yeah, I'd believe they were sniffing around us and didn't care about Donald, but for three middle aged Americans with no tangible experience of football, never mind Championship/League One, I don't think they wanted to be the owners, or at least the hands on owners until the club was firmly in the upper echelons of it's journey.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I haven't got a scooby. None of it makes any sense on the face of it. The Americans are behaving exactly as you'd expect someone interested, but maybe not right now, would behave. They've loaded everything massively in their favour. But Donald says it's not a prelude to them taking control.
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isn’t it a bit odd / unusual in your opinion that

a) they’d invest in the owners, and not because they see a takeover / further investment in the club a real possibility

b) they’d accept payment of the loan and just walk away despite spending a fortune and a lot of time looking at a deal and even reportedly attending a board meeting

just all seems a bit strange to me
 
Botchie said:
Well it was either going to be this, or you telling us you were right all along...
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Just pointing out that quite a few have mentioned our fans in a less than flattering light.
Make of that what you will.
I also assume that @Super Colin Todd has been inundated with apologies given he saw through these two chancers early doors but was met with a volley of abuse, probably by people who are now slagging them off as well.
 
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Mrjardine said:
Just pointing out that quite a few have mentioned our fans in a less than flattering light.
Make of that what you will.
I also assume that @Super Colin Todd has been inundated with apologies given he saw through these two chancers early doors but was met with a volley of abuse, probably by people who are now slagging them off as well.
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I find it quite sad that someone would take pleasure in being right. Nobody knew either way how it would work out, so nobody saw through anyone. I suspect it was more a case of some looking for an opportunity to get into a controversial debate as that's what they get off on.
 
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