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Donald on BBC Newcastle

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Travis said:
I think people are expecting someone wishing aids on him and his kids or something. He was clear last night the abuse he couldn’t handle were those questioning his motive. He handled that by removing himself from Twitter. He shouldn’t have shied away from public talk ins and matches in my opinion but he’s only human and if he needed a rest bite then that’s his prerogative. If we hadn’t lost a load of games nobody would have cared.

The criticism is fair especially in terms of recruitment and performance but there are some obvious agendas by some. It’s the world we live in now. Trolling and shouting abuse from your keyboard is an accepted opinion by a generation. It’s up to the sensible to filter that out and that includes Stewart Donald, although not being subjected to it I’m not qualified to comment.
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The match thing is a bit of a red herring. His time not attending SAFC games coincided with his being in Japan for the Rugby :lol:
 
Roger said:
It depends on which dictionary you refer to, but ‘Chancer’ can very much be a derogatory/abusive/slanderous term. I know to me, it always meant someone who took a risk/gamble which is what the Cambridge Dictionary says, and I don’t see that as being particularly offensive, but many other dictionaries refer to it being someone who is devious and fooling others.

I am certain there will still be plenty of abusive posts on here which I haven’t seen yet and haven’t been reported, but sadly there has been a hell of a lot of stuff deleted by myself and the moderators so what is left is only the tip of the iceberg.

The abuse serves nobody. All it is doing is alienating the owners and causing arguments on here. No way should we all be ‘happy clappers’ and I have criticised both SD and CM and our managers myself on here, but I have never felt the need to throw abuse or threaten any of them.
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we need to nip this little myth in the bud.
 
gipetto said:
Or it could spur him on to prove him wrong?

Grigg's a big lad, he'll know his performances are not acceptable. I can't see him improving any time soon.
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black-cat said:
I'm not so sure it's all about confidence with Grigg, as much about the fact he never wanted to be here in the first place and still doesn't. Kernt smiled when he missed that pen the other week
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I truly think that he'll never come good for Sunderland. I reckon he'll move clubs and start doing mediocre/well for them but I just think it hasn't clicked here and it isn't going to. Even if a player didn't want to come here I'd assume they'd still not want to miss open goals and get jeered at for it.
 
Roger said:
It depends on which dictionary you refer to, but ‘Chancer’ can very much be a derogatory/abusive/slanderous term. I know to me, it always meant someone who took a risk/gamble which is what the Cambridge Dictionary says, and I don’t see that as being particularly offensive, but many other dictionaries refer to it being someone who is devious and fooling others.

I am certain there will still be plenty of abusive posts on here which I haven’t seen yet and haven’t been reported, but sadly there has been a hell of a lot of stuff deleted by myself and the moderators so what is left is only the tip of the iceberg.

The abuse serves nobody. All it is doing is alienating the owners and causing arguments on here. No way should we all be ‘happy clappers’ and I have criticised both SD and CM and our managers myself on here, but I have never felt the need to throw abuse or threaten any of them.
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In the context of Stewart Donald and Sunderland AFC it's someone taking advantage of our lowly position to come here and play football chairman, because "phwoar, a club the size of Sunderland, that should be a laugh". He's said himself it was a unique opportunity to take control of a 'premiership' club that in most any other circumstances would prove impossible for him. He's not here for the sole benefit of SAFC, he's not some saviour, he's not a philanthropist. He's here as a football fan who wants to get amongst it and play chairman. Now that's probably no different to many other football club owners/chairmen/directors, but the problem is here, and this is where the word chancer comes back in, Stewart Donald is a man of limited means, and at a club like Sunderland I'm afraid he's pushing his luck a little too far. The aim here should be to get Sunderland AFC back to the Premier League as quickly as possible. I say should because I'm not convinced that is the intention here as quite simply it's beyond him. To be fair between them they've been quite careful not to over promise, but they're sure managing to under deliver.

Now if you want me to clean that up a bit, I will, but I think it's a sad state of affairs all round if we've become so sterile as to not dare forward an opinion on somebody. Kick it about and debate it by all means but don't take it away. I agree some other things said may be below the belt and that's not acceptable, but we're on about somebody's ability to do a job here. A job that should always ultimately be for us, because we are by far the greatest stakeholder here.
 
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Wansbeck Viking said:
Ive read the threads and couldn’t see any personal abuse. Unless mods are pulling some quotes the worst I seen was people calling him a chancer and unsure to trust him or not.
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Ha way man you know it's been way worse than that.

We have some stupid negative fans and the personal abuse on here or what he has received at matches is disgusting.
 
Lexingtongue said:
I'm sorry, like, but I'm not going to accept that everything is rosy just because he said so. It's hardly like him and Methven have been straight with us recently. It's time for him to earn some trust by standing by what he's said as talk is cheap.
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He hasn't said it is rosy though. Donald isn't blind to the fact we aren't doing well on the pitch.
 
Tongey said:
According to Simon Pryde

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Interesting change of PR tactics.

Initially went for the fan media, because they will lap up being on the inside track and thus won't ask difficult questions.

That strategy has run its course, so switching to the established media because they lack the in-depth detail (that fan media have) and thus won't ask the difficult questions.
The Albanian said:
sorry mate but I don’t believe that for a second.

you know what this place is like - if someone had threatened Donald on here, it would still be being talked about. A lot.


youve seen people threaten him on here?
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The sad reality of life in Britain is that anyone of any note in the public eye, gets absolute dogs abuse on social media (and this place, for avoidance of doubt, is a form of social media).

It started with politicians and high profile celebrities - now it's everyone. Give people a keyboard and a veil to hide behind and loads of them turn into *****. Sad.

If you can't see this and won't admit to it, you're turning your eyes away from where we as a society. Least surprising thing in the world that Donald is getting some, and there's no excuse - any excuses are victim-blaming. He shouldn't have to put up with it. Nobody should.
 
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