Work starting on new £11m auditorium in Sunderland city centre

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tunstallhill said:
i think the bigger problem with that is ticket pricing, at the academy anyway. it seems like small/medium sized bands (i mean by size of following/commercial success) are charging like £30 nowadays, and it just doesnt seem as 'fun'. remember going to stacks of gigs when i was younger, always seemed to be £8/10/12 for up and coming bands worth taking a shot on.

wanted to see courtney barnett, think it was earlier in the year, and it was about £30 each for me and my lass, on a weeknight, just didn't seem as worth it.

looking at riversides prices, it seems to be in the £15-20 range for most gigs, so hopefully it sticks with that. Martha for £11 and Blackalicious for £18 (both midweek) are two i'd deffo go to if they were in on sunderland for that price. can't be bothered to go to newcastle on a weeknight for a gig nowadays
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Because accessing the music is a lot cheaper now. Only way bands can make money is through touring now. Costello at the Empire is £110.
 
Teed said:
This, the Locarno held around 2/3k and was a fantastic venue to watch bands on, I'm sure many old lads on here would testify to that, that's just a nice size, you can actually see the acts up close, instead of on a screen.
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Great venue the Locarno. Saw Led Zep, Alex Harvey and Madness among others over there.
 
bobster999 said:
i had no idea they played here! when the old Independent was over the road there's been some pretty popular bands played there. obviously weren't big at the time
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They did sadly the few times I went it was always a pretty poor turn out. A gig at a weekend might be ok but it’s getting the audiences midweek that I worry about.

I honestly hope it’s a huge success as it could play a pivotal role in trying address Sunderland night time economy...fingers crossed.
 
Harry Angstrom said:
Its ideal and a much bigger venue would not be of any use as the region has venues in Newcastle that cater for most tours and even then Newcastle is bypassed quite a lot.
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In general, promoters avoid the NE as the money is not here. When the new arena was announced, plenty on the chronicle website were complaining about its capacity (11,000) but in reality that is about the right size. The truly big acts, those that sell night after night at the 02 etc, simply wont come up here
 
Harry Angstrom said:
Its ideal and a much bigger venue would not be of any use as the region has venues in Newcastle that cater for most tours and even then Newcastle is bypassed quite a lot.
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I agree.
Music venue to host events most days of the week.
We have a couple of venues in Southampton that hold about 600 (the Brook and the engine rooms). Gets cover bands, like noasis and the silver beatles, smaller bands I've seen there, like stereo mcs and off to see brand new heavies and ocean wisdom there next couple of months.

Real intimate venues.
There is a big need for them. Lots of acts can't sell 500 plus tickets.
Heres a list of the sort of events u get at 500-800 capacity places

Events Archive - Engine Rooms Southampton

engineroomssouthampton.com engineroomssouthampton.com

We then have the SOL for the mega bands.
 
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Hank Scorpio said:
In general, promoters avoid the NE as the money is not here. When the new arena was announced, plenty on the chronicle website were complaining about its capacity (11,000) but in reality that is about the right size. The truly big acts, those that sell night after night at the 02 etc, simply wont come up here
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Yes. The big bands will do 3 or 4 cities. On a selfish level it doesn't matter because I dislike arena gigs.
offmenut said:
I agree.
Music venue to host events most days of the week.
We have a couple of venues in Southampton that hold about 600 (the Brook and the engine rooms). Gets cover bands, like noasis and the silver beatles, smaller bands I've seen there, like stereo mcs and off to see brand new heavies and ocean wisdom there next couple of months.

Real intimate venues.
There is a big need for them. Lots of acts can't sell 500 plus tickets.
Heres a list of the sort of events u get at 500-800 capacity places

Events Archive - Engine Rooms Southampton

engineroomssouthampton.com engineroomssouthampton.com

We then have the SOL for the mega bands.
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Loads of interesting up and coming bands could play the new venue. Needs someone to book properly but it is pointless if there isn't the audience.
 
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What the music industry needs is joined up thinking between venues of similar sizes across the UK and promoters/bands/labels. At the moment they seem to be competing with each other.
A number of acknowledged nationwide “circuits” based on venue size is reqd that cut down on on bands mileage travelled would help as the crisis crossing and doubling back on tours has always amazed me. Now in these more enlightened carbon emission conscious times mebbes the music industry in general could pull together and get itself some good publicity for once. I’m sure bands would prefer it as well.
An under 300 capacity circuit, under 600, under1000 etc etc circuit working together would work out cheaper for all.
 
riffraff said:
What the music industry needs is joined up thinking between venues of similar sizes across the UK and promoters/bands/labels. At the moment they seem to be competing with each other.
A number of acknowledged nationwide “circuits” based on venue size is reqd that cut down on on bands mileage travelled would help as the crisis crossing and doubling back on tours has always amazed me. Now in these more enlightened carbon emission conscious times mebbes the music industry in general could pull together and get itself some good publicity for once. I’m sure bands would prefer it as well.
An under 300 capacity circuit, under 600, under1000 etc etc circuit working together would work out cheaper for all.
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I’ve also wondered if a subscription type arrangement would work for these sort of venues a bit like some of the cinemas work. It’s not quite the same as there are multiple opportunities to see a movie but I’m sure there are some who go to gig regularly and others who would go more regular if they could just pick and choose the gigs.

Places like Sunderland need to link with other venues in secondary cities and as you say try and create a similar circuit for bands.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
In general, promoters avoid the NE as the money is not here. When the new arena was announced, plenty on the chronicle website were complaining about its capacity (11,000) but in reality that is about the right size. The truly big acts, those that sell night after night at the 02 etc, simply wont come up here
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Saying they avoid the north east is a bit daft. There's plenty bands tour in the north east and sell out the O2 and the arena. Depends what music you're into though as to if you pay attention to who plays here.
 
Osklen said:
I’ve also wondered if a subscription type arrangement would work for these sort of venues a bit like some of the cinemas work. It’s not quite the same as there are multiple opportunities to see a movie but I’m sure there are some who go to gig regularly and others who would go more regular if they could just pick and choose the gigs.

Places like Sunderland need to link with other venues in secondary cities and as you say try and create a similar circuit for bands.
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I’m sure with a bit of music industry cooperation a Bands journey frinstance could be altered from Southampton-Leeds-Bristol- Leicester-Oxford to Southampton-Bristol-Oxford-Leicester-Leeds. Less petrol, less mileage, less carbon emissions, less wear n tear on van/bus, less time spent in van/bus, less touring expenses etc. It’s all good for the ideals etc.
 
bobster999 said:
Saying they avoid the north east is a bit daft. There's plenty bands tour in the north east and sell out the O2 and the arena. Depends what music you're into though as to if you pay attention to who plays here.
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Dunno about 'avoiding' but plenty do miss out the NE. From arena sized bands to the 500 capacity types. Theres been plenty of times we've had to travel down to Leeds or Nottingham.
 
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