The Sun - Ben Stokes

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True enough, I just don't understand why there's outrage over this particular story over others. They've dredged up a 30 year old story that while wasn't known but was in the public domain. My biggest surprise is that it didn't crop up years ago to be honest.


The step sister seems to think it's alright.

I personally don't think it is, but I don't buy tabloids.

Its not his step sister at all, where are you getting that from? he is absolutely no relation to her.
 


Its not his step sister at all, where are you getting that from? he is absolutely no relation to her.
His ma was married to her dad (or together long enough to have a couple of kids) right? I know they've never met, it seemed the thing to call her though. If you disagree, fine, she's lost her dad and a couple of half siblings in the case though so she's got skin in the game.
 
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His ma was married to her dad (or together long enough to have a couple of kids) right? I know they've never met, it seemed the thing to call her though. If you disagree, fine, she's lost her dad and a couple of half siblings in the case though so she's got skin in the game.


She is that blokes daughter from 10 years back, no relation to Ben Stokes man, and no relation to ben stokes.
 
The Scum calls itself a newspaper. I struggle to see the news in a 31 year old story of a tragic event that happened in a different country before Stokes was born and has no relevance whatsoever to his achievements.

Stokes was bang on in his statement. It’s a disgraceful attempt by the Scum to peddle its gutter content to lowest common denominator morons. And they’ll continue to do it because the free press drum will be banged to justify printing such irrelevant shite and there’ll be no sanction.
 
She is that blokes daughter from 10 years back, no relation to Ben Stokes mam, and no relation to ben stokes.
There are plenty of people who have kids from previous relationships or got with people that have kids from previous relationships that would disagree with that.
 
There are plenty of people who have kids from previous relationships or got with people that have kids from previous relationships that would disagree with that.

Really not, the woman didn't even know Ben Stokes had anything to do with her before the journalist approached her
 
Really not, the woman didn't even know Ben Stokes had anything to do with her before the journalist approached her
I'll happily acknowledge step sister was the wrong term, it was tenuous at best. Let's agree I got it wrong there.

She was asked about a case that involved her dad killing her half siblings. She's well within her rights to discuss it even if decency would say it shouldn't have been dredged up or not.
 
I don't see why it's any worse than some of the other shady shit tabloids pull tbh.

I think that one reason why a lot of people are disgusted by this particular story is the intersection between two things:

- that this story has only been published because of Ben Stokes. It's not about him in a narrative sense, but he's the reason for it being.
- but the events happened before he was even born. It's nothing he's done, experienced, caused, witnessed, been part of.

There's something in that which seems particularly nauseating.
 
I think that one reason why a lot of people are disgusted by this particular story is the intersection between two things:

- that this story has only been published because of Ben Stokes. It's not about him in a narrative sense, but he's the reason for it being.
- but the events happened before he was even born. It's nothing he's done, experienced, caused, witnessed, been part of.

There's something in that which seems particularly nauseating.

Yeah exactly, its about Ben Stokes mam

How is that of any relevance to anyone? happened 30 years ago, if its a matter of public record as they claim, then let people find out themselves, don't put it on the front of a newspaper
 
It's garbage. Unfortunately the people who see it for what it is probably already don't read it, and those who do will continue to.

Would be good to see a broader statement on it from ECB or journalism ethics group making the news and calling them out and telling people to stay clear of the paper.
 
She is that blokes daughter from 10 years back, no relation to Ben Stokes man, and no relation to ben stokes.
Nope technically it’s his step dads daughter and therefore his step sister. It could have been his step daughter and he would still technically be related m8. Not that this is relevant to the scum reporting btw.
 
Was just listening to an Interview on Five Live with Gareth Thomas.

Apparently it was a tabloid journalist that broke the news to his parents that he was HIV+ by knocking on their front door and asking them to comment. He’d not had a chance to speak to them about it. He was really emotional about it in the interview - he said he can never get that moment back, ever. Apparently there was a BBC Wales documentary on it last night.

He wouldn’t say which paper it was, but it was quite obvious after a couple of comments that it was the Sun.

Which a bunch of cuñtś they are.
 
Would be great if people boycotted the Sun. they’ve got form but to do this to Stokes and Thomas in the same week should really be enough to force everyone’s hands. Absolute scum of a paper

I thought the Stokes story was grim but what they’ve done to Thomas is horrendous. It’s not inconceivable that someone could commit suicide being put under that kind of pressure.

The statement regarding free press made me laugh too, like Murdoch hasn’t been available to the highest bidder for their rhetoric in his papers since before Blair was PM.
 
I'll happily acknowledge step sister was the wrong term, it was tenuous at best. Let's agree I got it wrong there.

She was asked about a case that involved her dad killing her half siblings. She's well within her rights to discuss it even if decency would say it shouldn't have been dredged up or not.
So, you think the Sun would have published the story, or even bothered at all with the story, if it just involved some every day Joe Soap?
 
So, you think the Sun would have published the story, or even bothered at all with the story, if it just involved some every day Joe Soap?

Of course not, nobody would give a shit.

Much in the same way I could shag a prossie without being tabloid news but Rooney couldn't.

Like it or not if you are in the public eye you are fair game to the tabloids.
 
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