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Speedy1976 said:
The situation that were pretty much skint.

Stop trying to be the oracle on everything Mr ‘I don’t care that much but have to post badly on practically every thread’.
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so why skint now-when six months ago not? has a big bill landed? so big it wiped out the extra gains from play off games and checkatrade final that wouldnt have been budgeted for at the start of the season?
 

Saying we are aiming for 100 pts is bonkers, that is not the way to go, just ask Liverpool, the next game is always the target
 
The Jarra Wanderer said:
Anyone else wondering what Grumpy Old Man will be wearing for his meeting with the club? I’m imagining a pair of arseless, jeans shorts, a pair of shit tan brogues, knee length colonial style white socks and a tight T shirt with a picture of a family of quizzical meerkats peering over a felled tree.
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:lol:
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Must admit, I've heard Donald be asked about the financial situation in terms of how the club was bought etc on pretty much every podcast. Every time he says he probably wasn't clear enough last time, then proceeds to spout a load of stuff that doesn't really make sense and certainly doesn't give clarity. I've always put it down to him simply not being very good at communicating it, but it could be a way of being evasive.

I'm still very much backing them mind. I might be having the wool pulled over my eyes but I think they seem canny (albeit I'm aware their main driver will be profit) and I hope that they are genuinely wanting to make us sustainable whilst still pushing us forwards for the good of the club and for the good of their investment. Like many others, however, I think this window is huge and my trust in them might dramatically change if we don't do what we need to do to give us the best possible chance of promotion
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Like many accountants, he's very numerate, but less articulate. He also has a tendency to speak without notes. He ends up being accidentally evasive, because he forgets part of what he meant to say, repeats himself, or contradicts himself and has to go back and correct himself. He also appears (and this is speculation, as I've never met him) to be the kind of manager who loves deals, but wants to leave the detail to others. Having said that, no sane business manager is going to cough up more information than they have to. They might not lie, but it certainly won't be "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".
 
Steve H said:
Saying we are aiming for 100 pts is bonkers, that is not the way to go, just ask Liverpool, the next game is always the target
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I think it was sensible tbh. Puts everyone at the club in no doubt that automatic promotion is expected, reminds them of the standard that should be expected at this club. Equally it lets the fans know that they aren't happy with play offs and are aware that things need to improve this season. They'll always be judged when the window shuts in terms of how much their actions have backed up the words, but in theory it might make some be a bit more patient if they know that the owners are well aware that we need to progress this season.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Like many accountants, he's very numerate, but less articulate. He also has a tendency to speak without notes. He ends up being accidentally evasive, because he forgets part of what he meant to say, repeats himself, or contradicts himself and has to go back and correct himself. He also appears (and this is speculation, as I've never met him) to be the kind of manager who loves deals, but wants to leave the detail to others. Having said that, no sane business manager is going to cough up more information than they have to. They might not lie, but it certainly won't be "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".
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What makes me curious, "im reluctant to use the words "worries me", about SD is that he has grown Brude by acquisition and trying to achieve synergies from those acquisitons, which is fine as a strategy, but SAFC is not such a business, and I wonder if he is suited to running an growthy ttype asset like SAFC, as opposed to mature consolidators as he runs now?

Speedy1976 said:
Seriously, give it a rest.

You’re boring the entire forum.
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answer the question, you are a good poster, and seemed to be the perfect combination of both informed and agenda free, but now your didging legitinate questions and resorting to invesctive, whichreduces you to the level of the fruitcakes and fraks on here..
 
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kildaremackem said:
What makes me curious, "im reluctant to use the words "worries me", about SD is that he has grown Brude by acquisition and trying to achieve synergies from those acquisitons, which is fine as a strategy, but SAFC is not such a business, and I wonder if he is suited to running an growthy ttype asset like SAFC, as opposed to mature consolidators as he runs now?


answer the question, you are a good poster, and seemed to be the perfect combination of both informed and agenda free, but now your didging legitinate questions and resorting to invesctive, whichreduces you to the level of the fruitcakes and fraks on here..
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All those saying the don is skint are way off the mark. He must have deep pockets to keep you, him, pwsafc, roker report et al in there.
 
ilovehorswill said:
All those saying the don is skint are way off the mark. He must have deep pockets to keep you, him, pwsafc, roker report et al in there.
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he couldnt afford me-but he cerainly isnt skint..had to show he had £50m in liquid to be allowed to buy safc..and dint have to put that much in last year because turnover rose markedly..
 
kildaremackem said:
What makes me curious, "im reluctant to use the words "worries me", about SD is that he has grown Brude by acquisition and trying to achieve synergies from those acquisitons, which is fine as a strategy, but SAFC is not such a business, and I wonder if he is suited to running an growthy ttype asset like SAFC, as opposed to mature consolidators as he runs now?


answer the question, you are a good poster, and seemed to be the perfect combination of both informed and agenda free, but now your didging legitinate questions and resorting to invesctive, whichreduces you to the level of the fruitcakes and fraks on here..
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I’m not dodging anything. I don’t have the clubs finances in front of me or the financial acumen to give an educated answer.

I just know that things aren’t as said by the owners and there’s a lot of cloak and dagger going in.
 
Where's the drama? We knew we were mired before Ellis cleared up the debt last season.

We knew the new owners had nowhere near as much clout as Ellis.

We knew it would in all probability be a slow process to rebuild. So even if one of the current incumbents thins out, it's not exactly meltdown is it?.

Too much has been said at too many levels, that's the issue.
 
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