dcl0sc
Striker
Good thing... I want my kids to identify as martians, therefore LGBT is an irrelevant concept!
LGBT Lessons for young children
- Thread starter Pseudonym Number 1
- Start date
- Status
Good thing... I want my kids to identify as martians, therefore LGBT is an irrelevant concept!
Some Random Guy
Striker
What do they need to know really?
Most kids will have a mam and a dad, some will just have a mam, the odd one will just have a dad.. Why not tell them some kids have two dads or two mams?
Doesn't really need to go any deeper than that imo. Just "this is a thing, it's no big deal".
That ties more into the T than LGB, many LGB don't think the T should be lumped in with it. Personally I was quite happy to accept a bloke could be a woman, or a woman a bloke. It's the 70+ things that seem to have been added in between that I can't get my head around.
Last edited:
dcl0sc
Striker
So it stands for terrestrial? where does extra fit in?
It's a tricky one. I don't think young kids should be getting any sort of lessons regarding sexuality; they don't need to learn about hetero or homosexual relationships in any detail. That being said, and at rare risk of sounding like a leftie, if it's something as simple as having some storybooks with a family where the adults just happen to be two men or two women, then I don't have a problem with it. That's not teaching them about sex in any way, shape or form, it's simply making sure that, from an early age, they don't see same sex couples as "weird" or "different". If from a young age they accept that some families happen to have two mams or two dads, maybe they won't grow up to be intolerant. Certainly I don't think it would do any harm
Some Random Guy
Striker
AFAIK when it comes to meat kosher can be halal, but halal can't be kosher.
Booze can be kosher, but never halal.
AFAIK that's the extent of the lessons mate.
Little Timmy isn't going be told about how Sarah's dads go balls deep when 69ing or owt.
Last edited:
LiverBird
Midfield
I was more talking about the process of killing the animal.
Anyway back on topic, this subject should be left until secondary school, what dumb fuck thought it was a good idea to introduce primary school classes on the subject?!
Kosher is more restrictive than halal, so kosher food is also generally halal, obviously except when there's alcohol in it. There are some exceptions.
Exactly, so I don't see why there's an issue. We all know that being gay isn't a choice, so being exposed in an innocent manner like that from a young age isn't "risking" your child becoming homosexual (if you're one of those people who would hate such a thing), but it might make things easier in the long run for people who are homosexual if it isn't seen as "abnormal". Don't really see a negative side to it or a genuine reason for complaint. I've got a 4 year old, I wouldn't give a fuck if one of his school books featured a family where it was two dads and a couple of kids. If the bairn ever asked why there wasn't a mammy I'd just say that some children have two daddies, it wouldn't be a big issue for him and like I say, it might help him grow up to be a nice, tolerant person
redalert69
Striker
Winds me up shit like this,
Why do kids need to be taught about stuff other than basic sex education,
Plenty of time to worry about the complexities of adulthood later on, let them be kids for christ sake
Why do kids need to be taught about stuff other than basic sex education,
Plenty of time to worry about the complexities of adulthood later on, let them be kids for christ sake
As for the sex and relationships education, so long as it's just about relationships (which it is until kids are about 10 or 11, or at least they are in my sister's school), they should be happy to mention that some families will be made of two daddies, two mammies, or just one parent. In secondary they go into more detail. Sex as a means of reproduction is taught in science and is obviously restricted to heterosexual sex. Sex in general is taught in PSHE or something similar and can include all types of couple. Again, best to acknowledge that not everyone is straight.
My sister's school got quite a few letters of complaint last year because her teacher explicitly said to her class (9-10 year olds at the time) that two men or two women couldn't be in a relationship. That particular lie was, in itself, very confusing for the children as almost all of them are aware by this age that some people aren't straight.
My sister's school got quite a few letters of complaint last year because her teacher explicitly said to her class (9-10 year olds at the time) that two men or two women couldn't be in a relationship. That particular lie was, in itself, very confusing for the children as almost all of them are aware by this age that some people aren't straight.
Some Random Guy
Striker
I don't think it's meant for kids that have parents that treat with it in a harmless way like you would.
It's the kids that have parents going apeshit that need it imo.
f***ing hell man
When we had sexual education at school and were told about wanking one of the lads asked how lasses did it. Our teacher told us they rubbed their inner thigh. There were 2 or 3 lasses I disappointed before I found out the score.
Last edited:
The inner thigh!!! I guess that's one way of putting it.f***ing hell man
When we had sexual education at school and were told about wanking one of the lads asked how lasses did it. Our teacher told us they rubbed their inner thigh. There were 2 or 3 lasses I disappointed before I found out the score.
If no kids are allowed to go, it would be cancelled
Some Random Guy
Striker
One of the poor lasses probably got friction burn
D
Deleted member 30853
Guest
Understood about the two mams or two dads remark and that's a fair point. But perhaps just leave things at that until puberty and sex education proper.
Like I said, let kids have their childhood before the adult world swallows them up.
Tadger
Striker
Other than saying "some boys kiss boys, some girls kiss girls" I'm not convinced they need that much educating. Really though, it's the parent that who are outraged that have kids that probably need that explained to them.
I remember my kid screaming me into the room one day when he was about 3: "Dad! Dad!, them boys are kissing!". Hollyoaks.
On a slightly different note there was also the time we were eating in an Italian and he nonchalantly points at a couple in their 30s sat about 3 feet away and said, quite nonchalantly, "Those ones are black"
That kind of thing wouldn’t embarrass me.
I’d simply say, “Yes, some people have different coloured skin.” and leave it at that. Kids notice things like that and ask questions about things they’re not familiar with.
Muppet
Striker
This is ridiculous. Mini Muppet is 6. They get taught about families and how families come in lots of different guises, not just Mam, Dad and 2.4 children.
She wrote in her homework book about her friend who we visited when we were on holiday in the US who has two Mams.
It’s about as confusing to her as her little mate who has a white Mam and a black Dad. She asks questions but out of curiosity, not fear. All you’ve got to do is acknowledge that different situations exist.
She wrote in her homework book about her friend who we visited when we were on holiday in the US who has two Mams.
It’s about as confusing to her as her little mate who has a white Mam and a black Dad. She asks questions but out of curiosity, not fear. All you’ve got to do is acknowledge that different situations exist.
That's a cracking post to wake up to with a bit morning glory. Back in 5
MackneyHackem
Striker
Kids don’t discriminate, they’re kids. It’s the parents who turn them into hateful little bastards.
- Status
