Shooting in a mosque in NZ...

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Biscuitz said:
just read that there is a page on Reddit dedicated to watching people die and people are uploading their own versions of this attack video adding their commentary over it. Reddit were asked to take it down and refused saying they believe in free speech.

^that is how you end up with a fucked up society
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f***ing hell... disgrace.
 


Aituk7 said:
I'm not so sure he was unhinged. He obviously has an ideology he believes in. Unhinged suggests he was facing some sort of mental issue.

Now I know to us anyone who does something like that would seem crazy/ is crazy. But he's influenced by something he believes in. It was motivated not by mass recklessness but a systemic hatred for non-white people and in this case specifically muslims
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Now you might start understanding why everybody challenges you on yours and other peoples constantly banging on about Islam and supporting/apologising for nutters like Tommy Robinson....Its f***ing dangerous and should be pulled up in the same way Islamic extremists should......There is no place for extremism or for legitimising/excusing extremism in any right minded society.
 
The Muffin Man said:
Now you might start understanding why everybody challenges you on yours and other peoples constantly banging on about Islam and supporting/apologising for nutters like Tommy Robinson....Its f***ing dangerous and should be pulled up in the same way Islamic extremists should......There is no place for extremism or for legitimising/excusing extremism in any right minded society.
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dangermows said:
Billions of people follow religion and don't carry out attacks but religion is often linked to terrorist attacks.

There was a family who kept a Chimp called Travis. They let him watch violent movies. He went mental and bit one of their friends hands off and ripped her face off.
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This just tells me a minimal percentage of the human race are arseholes and always will be.

As for the chimp story. If you took a human child from its own kind and sat it in front of a violent loop of videos without any normal interaction in its life, I have no doubt it would end up seriously fucked up. Everything we do and experience will shape you throughout life.

However, I would say our real life interactions, with real life people shape us more than any other factor that can be attributed.
 
Baghdad McBadLad said:
Scary that my nearly 2 year old daughter is growing up in a society where a person deems it acceptable to record him executing over 50 innocent humans. Absolutely sick as owt!
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Most kids these days are in practice for this sort of thing, Letting children play comupter games like fortnite or PUBG, tragedies like this will only increase. We’re basically brainwashing our kids to think this is acceptable.
 
The Muffin Man said:
Now you might start understanding why everybody challenges you on yours and other peoples constantly banging on about Islam and supporting/apologising for nutters like Tommy Robinson....Its f***ing dangerous and should be pulled up in the same way Islamic extremists should......There is no place for extremism or for legitimising/excusing extremism in any right minded society.
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Really? On a thread like this scoring points ? bit sad and pathetic from you to be fair.

yes the lad you quotes supports TR but not once has he mentioned him?
 
JAZZMANB said:
By all means report this but I think Comments disabled is the way forward on Fb posts etc .
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I musn't be following you correctly, I don't know what you've said that is worthy of reporting.

As for disabling comments arbitrarily, I don't think that's the answer to anything in all honesty.
 
Smartin said:
Most kids these days are in practice for this sort of thing, Letting children play comupter games like fortnite or PUBG, tragedies like this will only increase. We’re basically brainwashing our kids to think this is acceptable.
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I hate this argument, because it shows absolutely diminished responsibility of adults.

Kids shouldn't be playing these games. PUBG is rated 18+ and Fortnite is a 12 (because its rather cartoony and outlandish)
 
Baghdad McBadLad said:
Scary that my nearly 2 year old daughter is growing up in a society where a person deems it acceptable to record him executing over 50 innocent humans. Absolutely sick as owt!
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Just a new generation with new horrors marra, the next generation will have their own horrors...! It's a repeating cycle!

It's only scary if you bring your daughter up to believe that it's acceptable. What you should/will do is... bring her up to be a decent law abiding human who deplores such horrors. Whilst having such a good morale code, she can then pass this upbringing onto her own children and on it will go! :cool:
 
safcpelaw said:
Really? On a thread like this scoring points ? bit sad and pathetic from you to be fair.

yes the lad you quotes supports TR but not once has he mentioned him?
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Its not scoring points, its making the point that right wing extremism is f***ing scary and when we pull people up for it we are not snowflakes because this is the result......Note I was perfectly polite and simply explained the point, contrast that to threads on the muslim terrorist attacks and the appalling things said on there and the way the Muslim population is vilified.....There is a stark difference in the way people react to these attacks. Oh and I have not vilified all white people and have not called for all white people to apologise or take responsibility for the behaviour of one or a handful of extremist nutters.

BTW you might want to listen to the PM of New Zealand, she has vilified right wing extremism and its doctrine this morning, is she also out of order?
 
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Mackem00 said:
I'll never understand the morbid fascination in watching the videos like. And then being disgusted in what was on the video. I've been sent it twice in WhatsApp groups today and just deleted it straight away. It's not hard to avoid it.
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Same here, turned it off, I was hoping to see a clip of him talking in the car at the start, apparently he says some things before he gets out.

Just to see if it identifies any further motivations
 
Mackem00 said:
I'll never understand the morbid fascination in watching the videos like. And then being disgusted in what was on the video. I've been sent it twice in WhatsApp groups today and just deleted it straight away. It's not hard to avoid it.
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To be honest, I saw a part of the video on my Twitter feed and when I realised what was happening I switched it off. But I agree with your action, this shouldn’t be glorified, I wish I never saw a second.
 
Smartin said:
Disgraceful and terrible news. It’s time we really started to have a look and put serious restrictions or censorship on violent computer games and movies.

I unfortunately saw a part of the horrific content and I feel sick.

Sad sad day.
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What has video games got to do with anything ?
 
safcpelaw said:
Really? On a thread like this scoring points ? bit sad and pathetic from you to be fair.

yes the lad you quotes supports TR but not once has he mentioned him?
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I don't "support" TR. I just say what I think of him on the actions he takes and don't call him a nazi because I don't think he is a nazi.

He has absolutely nothing to do with this. My views on Islam have absolutely nothing to do with this.

The things I talk about have literally no influence over this kind of behaviour and the argument of we should be silent about Islam so that things like this doesn't happen will never wash with me.

But this guy is a complete and utter liar. So don't take what he says as factual in any way shape or form.
 
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