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you cant blame him for moving to better positioned club for more money. Its a short career that can end due to one injury. You can blame him for the way he has gone about it., dragging it on and saying one thing and doing another.

We carry on with wyke up front and honeyman playing off him. Stick Maja in the u18 and let him languish there for the rest of the season.

Spot on, we now push on without him.
 
I really don’t think that people on here grasp how contract negotiations and football agents work

Wanting transparency is one thing, but you make yourself a lot harder to deal with if you go public in such a way.

Like it or lump it, we have to deal with agents. And footballers who aren’t the brightest. We can say that we are taking a stand, but ultimately we’ll lose
ferguson grabbed pogba;s agent by the throat in a contract diusispute,,tbeh agent still did business with him..
 
Fine. At least we know where we are now. It might have been more professional just to say he wouldn’t be signing and the club will act accordingly. We’ll get some money whatever happens and we only want players interested in playing for SAFC. Disappointing but this is modern football, unfortunately.
 
Of course, this situation was created entirely by our own board by setting this one week deadline. It meant that they had to say something if there’d been no movement. It’s just been handed poorly I’m afraid.

I know it’s not popular or the done thing to criticise or question the new owners but this doesn’t look brilliant

What we don’t know is what prompted them to set this deadline. It’s not unreasonable to criticise the owners but before you know the facts it’s a bit of a stab in the dark.

We have owners who are forthright and open in everything they can realistically share - I for one applaud them for that.
 
This exactly. SD has made a point about openness and that has its advantages and disadvantages. It highlights yet again the tawdry,unscrupulous world of the football agent but it also put’s Maja in a difficult position if he was asked to play before his move is finalised.

I suspect this tweet pretty much confirms Maja won’t be signing a contract here and the clubs deadline suggests they intend to cash in sooner rather than later.

Donald wanted to keep it in house. The agent went public. Fuck all to do with Donald or the club.

 
Well done SAFC, agent had no intention of getting Maja to commit. Donald has flushed the agent out and straight away has yet again been transparent with the fans on what exactly happens. Don’t really blame a 20 year old much as he’s been badly advised, but at the same time I don’t want to see him in a Sunderland shirt again.
 
This is precisely the reason why I this has all been handled badly. Fans turning on the players has all the hallmarks of the last few seasons and today has only encouraged this again. We didn't replace our best striker last season and it went pretty badly then. I hope the new owners have a different approach to it than the old ones did because we have a similar amount of money available..

We approached him to negotiate a new contract.
We negotiated a new contract with his agent.
We offered him what he requested.
Maja sought out Ross specifically to tell him he was going to sign the new contract.
Less than 24 hours later the first inkling the club has that things have changed is when they find out from f***ing Sky that he's not signing the contract because the agent has contacted them first to broadcast his availability without having the courtesy to at least tell us first.

I think fans are going to have an opinion on this mate.
 



To answer all those who say it should be in house. Totally agree. His agent phoned sky to tell them - not the club or myself who would have said nothing. The agent has made this public - not to the benefit of the player!!! We are responding not instigating
agent merely using sky to do his job.
JM has a big decision to make ... do an asoro and potentially rot, or stay and a develop.
the agent does really care which as they'll always get there approx 14+%
 
who said he asked to sign uyesterday? he said he would..he may have said it on the phone? he asked to see the manager..since the manager works at the ground maja asking to see him implies it was out of trainoing time..

Donald said he sought out Ross to say he wanted to sign it. He’s not just going to shout omout in the middle of training he wants to sign. He will have asked to see him in his office after. Players often do this.
 
As much as I want Maja to stay, if I was his agent I would be advising him not to sign; stay at Sunderland till the summer; and then either negotiate with Sunderland if promoted or see what else is on offer.
The reality of football and life.
Or he signs a contract with a non-promotion release clause and a significant wage increment if we do go up. That's something like what I'd be going for if I were SAFC right now.

Either way, if we sell him I hope it is for a decent sum and has a sell-on clause in it - we've already maybe made that mistake with Pickford.
 
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Is one side of the story. I’m just not sure there’s a need to go public on all of this. Either the deadline or apparent outcome today. It’s unusual and I doubt appreciated by players or football administrators. Could cause issues for the club

His agent went to Sky before informing the club. It was going to be public regardless, by doing this Donald has got in front of the story and at a stroke, the player will still be supported by the fans as it's his agent that's the problem, not the player. If sky had broke this news first, then the stories of Maja agreeing to the contract and then refusing to sign would be the story, people would get on his back and it would be counter productive to try to keep him. As is, the fans will still support him and we control the narrative and it becomes "evil nasty double crossing greedy agent" rather than "greedy player".

Well played to me
 
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